The rise in the hero complex

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There has been a certain rise in people claiming they are or thinking they are heroes. "We are saving lives".

That basically involves an avid desire to report anyone that dares to leave the house, police everyone else, dismiss the worries and concerns of others, ridiculing, attacking,bullying and emotionally blackmailing anyone who struggles, some kind of irrational fear/hate of children and gleeful virtue signaling about how much better they are at staying home. Abusing key workers that in their eyes are not doing their job,for doing their job, following guidelines(made up or official) ,not following guidelines,in the wrong clothes etc.

There are people who are seriously struggling right now, emotionally,financially,mentally,physically etc. People that are becoming more and more vulnerable as more restrictions and public policing come in. People that have killed themselves due to the situation we are in.

They are not heroes,they are not saving lives.

I am a sort of anti-hero. I work in the NHS but in a paediatric hospital attached to a massive adult one. We have been really quiet at work, all elective work cancelled while we wait for it to get busy. Which it hasn’t, for us. The adult place is really busy, staff starting to look run ragged when I see them in canteen.
And my job is important but right now I feel a bit of a fraud of a key worker, having less to do than normal.
(I have offered my services to adult colleagues but they are too busy to train me to be helpful so I would just be in the way)
Strange times. I can’t even “stay home to save lives.”

@Shitsgettingcrazy sorry i was going for lightening up the mood .

So anyone that reports people for flouting the very basic rules that the government have put in place to help protect said healthcare workers and the wider public have my full support.

Have you read the reports if what emergency lines are inundated with?

Because the majority are not helping front line workers.

They are clogging up lines with 'my neighbout is having a bbq with her husband.....this isnt allowed is it'

And other such nonsense

sorry i was going for lightening up the mood .

God dont be sorry.

I laughed my head off when I realised. It was very funny

Yes, two frontline nurses have killed themselves.

As well as a 19 yo young woman and a 53 yo father of 3 in India who thought he had Corona.

A friend of a friend who works for the NHS that says the numbers arent true. They have run out of body bags and numbers of dead are in the thousands.

My Trust ran out of body bags this week.

My Trust ran out of body bags this week.

Your trust isnt the whole NHS though, is it.

Nor are you saying that the government are lying about numbers and Body bag stock is proof. Or are you?

Yes, but it is possible to run out of body bags for lots of reasons - like a just-in-time delivery system falling over - and not necessarily because there are more deaths than usual.

Does the law says we each get a soldier to marry

According to some on MN, I'm a feckless single parent who just can't get enough shags, can I join the queue first??

Pleeeeaaaassssseeee

My children need a father so we can get to the shops!!!

Sorry, so that I can get to the shops.

Yes, but it is possible to run out of body bags for lots of reasons - like a just-in-time delivery system falling over - and not necessarily because there are more deaths than usual.

Seriously? A lot of deaths are the reason the NHS would run out of body bags.

Theres been a lot if deaths. it no proof whatsoever, of a government hiding the real death rate

Yes, seriously. A normal amount of deaths plus a missed shipment of body bags would lead to no body bags without excess deaths.

So to many deaths compared to hide bags.

Again, how is it proof government are hiding deaths?

@CatherineOfAragonsPomegranate bo,it's your own fault for leaving your kid's dad. That's how the rhetoric goes isn't it?

It's quite depressing really when OP or PP say quite clearly why and how they struggle, particularly when mental health is involved and they still get told to "pull their big girl pants up" and "get a grip".

bo,it's your own fault for leaving your kid's dad. That's how the rhetoric goes isn't it?

It is I didn't mean to be a Council Estate slut. Now I don't get a handsome Spanish soldier

It's quite depressing really when OP or PP say quite clearly why and how they struggle, particularly when mental health is involved and they still get told to "pull their big girl pants up" and "get a grip".

I am really sick of the lack of empathy about this whole situation. 'You have to give birth with no birth partner?' Stop being a bloody selfish cow. I would absolutely have no problem doing it I'd be fine...I'm strong......

Strong is such a subjective thing isn't it?

I'm fucking iron man atm, what with being an antisocial,grumpy,miserable sod at the best of time. I go to work , I come home and possibly shopping at the weekend. The self isolation /social distancing has had zero impact on me so I must be made of steel. Or perhaps I'm just lucky that due to my circumstances and various other reasons some things won't affect me as much as they do others in this crisis.

You don't need much empathy or intellect to realise that not everyone's circumstances are the same at yours and that people are allowed to struggle.

Yep, the holier-than-thou crowd love a good pandemic!

In my book, they're on a par with all the social media scene-stealers posting stuff like, "Day 3, felt a slight tickle in my throat eight hours ago. Shit - I've got it, haven't I?"

I’ve noticed a rise in people erroneously calling themselves ‘frontline.’ My DH is most definitely front line. As front line as you get.

Somebody on my fb feed described themselves as ‘front line’ in a local groups, leading to a bit of hero worship. He’s not in a patient facing role at all. He is an nhs manager co-ordinating podiatry. He has no clinical background.

Do call these ‘front line’ heroes out. Ask what their job is.

There's so much nastiness directed in every which way lately. It's really gratuitous and sad.

I think everyone should be able to grumble, but people are unable to ask advice, share fears, or complain at all without being lambasted for their stupidity, selfishness and weakness.

That said, some people have suggested that the restrictions imposed to save lives aren't worth tolerating because of the effects on their own mental health. Perhaps some people here I agree. I've been astonished by how many support this idea. I'd love to be "let's agree to disagree, everyone is entitled to their opinion" about it, but I really struggle with the selfishness. It makes me so sad that people can disregard actual lives in such a way, no matter what they're going through. I'd never be okay for even a complete stranger to die just so I can go out and socialise in the near future. This mindset and the lack of empathy is incomprehensible to me.

I just saw someone saying they were going to find it a bit hard to plumb in their new washing machine themselves if delivery people can't come inside and do it, described as 'one of the cuntiest things they've ever seen on MN'. Which I thought was a bit of a stretch.

As well as the divs telling them they'd have to leave the new washing machine outside for however long in case it has CV on it 🙄

I just saw a LinkedIn post about a guy who worked in an office saying he had taken a part time job at a Tesco's and he "WAS NOT ASHAMED!!".

I was like wtf would you be ashamed

Attitudes towards mental health at the moment are disgusting. I’ve posted a couple of times about how I’m struggling and now I’m actually scared to post anymore as some of the replies made me feel worse and my depression is already back. I was made to feel selfish for having depression and wanting to see my friends. How fucked up is that?!

People are just arseholes
The pressure is on and it’s showing a lot of people for who they are really

The real heroes are people who quietly do the right thing by staying at home, not trying to find loopholes and workarounds, not trying to be anything other that to take themselves 'off-grid'.

That doesn't require any Fb posts, or MN competitioning, it just needs quiet unobtrusive compliance without a grumble or a whinge.

The challenge is that people will always have an excuse, they will always have more challenges that the next person as to why they are the exception to the rule. So the "even bigger hero" is the person who can do it the quietest, despite having all those significant challenges.

And we'll never know they are heroes because they won't have said a word.