BORIS TESTS POSITIVE

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So BoJo has COVID-19!

Bragging about shaking hands when he should have been doing the opposite. Being a proponent of herd immunity. Leading "mix ups" about ventilators and so on. Presiding over an NHS which is having to beg for equipment and staff. Not really a "stellar job".
www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-52052694

Cam77
Boris isn’t his first name anyway. It’s Alexander.

One of my friends insists that you have to self-isolate for 14 days if you have been in contact with a known case even if you don't have symptims (and is therefore doing so whilst making dramatic posts of facebook and having people run around getting treats to leave on his doorstep). I think he's wrong but does anyone know whether that is the case? If it is then presumably we'll have most of the government in isolation.

I'd say most people don't care much about the British constitution because we've been getting by with making it up as necessary over the centuries. It's flexible.
The written constitution of the US has many excellent features, but it locks in things such as the 'right to bear arms ' which may have made sense when it was written - newly independent, militias rather than armies, 18th century arms.

Boris assured us all that he was "shaking hands with everybody"

“I’m shaking hands continuously. I was at a hospital the other night where I think there were actually a few coronavirus patients and I shook hands with everybody, you’ll be pleased to know. I continue to shake hands."

This will end well.

Ali85
He is totally correct.

I'm not surprised. He must have been mixing with loads of people over the last month. I cut back 3 weeks ago. Hope he's feeling better soon.
(Far lefty here).

UK coronavirus death toll rises by 181 to 759.

Ali, that was my understanding too. If you have been with someone with it then you have to self isolate just in case you picked it up eg those health people on our screens every day who are very good - because they were next to BJ my understanding is they now have to stay at home

Ali85 He is totally correct

Is he? Do you have a source? We had some diagnosed cases at work and the advice we got was not to do so unless we got symptoms

Groucho

@PatioCandidate - actually I do mind.

How exactly are you any better than the people you're complaining about rishisunakfanclub?

With 80% of us predicted to get it eventually, there's every chance Cummings will – indeed already has, given who he's been working closely with.

I don't wish a severe case on anyone. But I'm resigned to most people getting it.

So his bit on the side gets a test and is allowed to go to another home.
I know she is pg but it's one rule for them and another for us, can't say as I'm surprised.

Xenia do you have a source for having to do 14 days self-isolation if in contact with diagnosed case? Interested anyway but it will be a nightmare for the country if so many people in key posts do have have to self-isolate for 14 days.

Nope. You love twisting words, don't you? i care nothing for the succession of which privileged person with no clue how their 'subjects' live is next to take an archaic and meaningless title while their life of luxury is paid for by low-paid workers in essential jobs.

Ali85 I can't find anywhere that says isolate for 14 days after contact
with someone you don't live with

Obviously it would be safer, if you possibly can, e.g. retired, SAHP should do so, imo
but the country would grind to a halt if HCP and other workers did this^every time.

Just this re infected household members:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

"If you live with others and you or one of them have symptoms that may be caused by coronavirus, then household members must stay at home and not leave your house for 14 days
(more information in the ending self-isolation section below).

If possible, you should not go out even to buy food or other essentials, other than exercise, and in that case at a safe distance from others.

The 14-day period starts from the day when the first person in your house became ill."

I just remember hearing that eg those people coming back from ski resorts on cruise ships who did not have it had to self isolate. May be we have given up trying all that now. A couple on my road are almost at the end of the 14 days and they do not have it but had been in the presence of someone who had. It may be the guidance has got looser than I thought it had been - actually it must be as nurses and doctors and cleaners on wards will be in contact with the virus for 12 hours a day but are still allowed to go out to buy their food.

I suppose everything always has to end up being a reasonable compromise.

You love twisting words, don't you?

Oh, the irony!

Thanks Bigchocfrenzy that's what I thought too. Obviously it's not a bad thing to self-isolate if you have a choice but I can't see how the country can work if it's a rule that people have to follow even if they are a doctor or chancellor of the exchequer!

If anyone gloats at this then they’re scum, quite frankly!

Are you a Boris Johnson fangirl/boy Bojo1?

I wouldn't say I'm gloating, I'd certainly never wish for anyone to be unwell, but how many people were backing up our glorious leader when he bragged he'd been shaking hands in a hospital that had Covid-19 patients in it? Just weeks ago. Considering how long it incubates he could potentially even have picked it up then - and maybe passed it straight on too. He made a mockery out of it all until it was made to clear to him that he couldn't.

So yes poor Boris and his mild symptoms. Others have not been as lucky. My thoughts are with the patients he encountered at Kettering Hospital...

re the threads on e.g. brothers playing football

We'll only know if the social distancing was taken sufficiently seriously by the trend in daily deaths after a couple of weeks
(not enough testing to take new cases as a measure, but the % positive may be a useful indicator)

If the trend isn't sufficiently downwards, then I expect the govt would extend and tighten lockdown,
e.g. exclude outside exercise, dog walks must be just 20m for loo, police question anyone out ...

We need to cooperate and not look for loopholes, or - apart from the tragedy of deaths - the economy will be going even further down the toilet

I actually think about 95% of posters are wishing BoJo well? There will always be a few nasty people.

I really hope he’s ok - I like him (in fact I quite fancy him)

his bit on the side
Nice to see we’re still being horrible towards other women, corona or not