Worried About Coronavirus- thread 34

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4pm briefing today

It was greed and fear allowing Cheltenham and the football to continue.
All those fancy hats with matching face masks on the ladies lots of thought went into that day. 🙈

Doesn’t it mean that the 13 without health conditions were aged between 63 and 99?

And the UK figures now don't include anyone who died outside a hospital, its that right? So are they probably even higher? I'm not caught up with the thread sorry.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Gloucestershire is showing a spike now due to Cheltenham festival. Is anyone plotting counties?

It means that 13 of the patients between 63 and 99 didn’t have underlying health conditions. It doesn’t give any information about those under 63,so I think we can assume a significant number of those didn’t either or they wouldn’t have made the distinction

GoofyGoob i wondered that on the statistics thread, as what’s been released today is actually the numbers until 5pm yesterday. Which puts us much closer to Italy sadly. But I don’t know how Italy organisés itself for reporting tbh.

Avg increase in UK COVID-19 deaths over latest three day period: 30%

For perspective, here are the 3 day avg increases in other countries at the same stage in their outbreaks:

Italy 20%
Spain 26%
France 25%
China 12%

@Bercows was that the ' both my grandparents died and my wedding's cancelled' thread?

One of the first few to test positive in Ireland had returned from Cheltenham.
www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/irishman-who-attended-cheltenham-festival-tests-positive-for-covid-19-39065160.html

Surely it means the only cases with no underlying conditions were aged between 63 - 100?
Very unclear and frightening all the same.

*deaths sorry. Not cases

A poster a few days ago was saying that the overall death rate for countries might not be any higher as these were «people who would have died anyway». In France overall mortality is up 6% at the moment, in some regions it’s up 38%.

I think with the concerns about hospital vs community deaths being counted, overall mortality may end up being a useful indicator also.

Plenty of people dying in care homes here that would otherwise perhaps have survived. GPs are being told not to send anyone to hospital unless unavoidable, so patients who otherwise might have been sent in and recovered are being managed with palliative care

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It means that 13 of the patients between 63 and 99 didn’t have underlying health conditions

I'm super-impressed with a 99 year old with no underlying conditions

pocketem do you mean of other conditions as well?

The UK figures are worse than bad. Puts us track to be worse than Italy.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-northamptonshire-52052830?__twitter_impression=true
Coronavirus: Exercise rule-breakers spark surge in police calls

A police force has had a surge in calls from people reporting their neighbours for "going out for a second run".

Government lockdown rules allow people to leave their homes to take one form of exercise a day .

Nick Adderley, from Northamptonshire Police, said the force control room has had "dozens and dozens" of calls about people ignoring the order.

On the 24th France published 9 percent intensive care cases were aged under 44 and about the same number having previous health condition to not. None of them had died.

www.santepubliquefrance.fr/maladies-et-traumatismes/maladies-et-infections-respiratoires/infection-a-coronavirus/documents/bulletin-national/covid-19-point-epidemiologique-du-24-mars-2020

Just put on this pandemic docu series on netflix. It is so surreal watching it with what is going on now! This was obviously made before covid19 hit but it is just bizarre to think yep you were all right, except it was a flu it was a virus. So weird.

The fatality rate in Italy is going to be very high in the wash up — there are 4000 patients currently in ICU and past stats tell us some 60% of those will die. Those deaths will lag for some time too. Today’s cases in Lombardy are finally coming down (2,117 v 2400 yesterday) but the deaths remain high (542 v 541).

It’s very grim.

Glad to hear about your bro @Horehound. That's one less thing to worry about now.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/pensioner-who-hadnt-eaten-more-18000193.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Pensioner who hadn't eaten for more than a week while in isolation, terrified he had coronavirus, dies - this off-duty nurse didn't know him long, but they had a special bond
The 73-year-old man had been self-isolating alone for a week without food with suspected coronavirus

Good point, @FingonTheValiant I hadn't thought about the way Italy reports

Crunchy is my phone only letting be see part of the chart. I can't see how to read it

Re the stats for older people, More or Less suggested that older people's risk increase is like compressing a year's worth of risk into a fortnight.

So whatever your risk of dying this year, you now have the same risk of dying in the next two weeks. So you are losing out on months of life rather than years.

Does that also mean if you were going to die this year, you are going to die with CV?