Delay in today's numbers

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Unless I'm being really stupid, it doesn't look like the numbers have been updated for today, it still says 24th March

www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public

Not seen any reasons as to why they are delayed?

itsnotthatcomplicated
I totally agree.

I also agree on the spreading of false information, and when a poster responds with a personal attack “you sound slightly deranged” then they have lost the argument.

False information @bluntness100.
Like there’s no increase in the death rate in Italy versus a normal year?! Good luck with that argument. You don’t seem to be doing too well convincing people of that on the other thread...

All those calluding on providing fake numbers, thank goodness there's posters on here who have heard the truth from a mate and are blowing the whole thing open

You sound slightly deranged. Maybe time to step away from these threads for a while?

Hahhaha yes I sound deranged.

Because I pretending there was any changes 2 weeks ago (wrong) that my mate works for the nhs and said they are hiding bodies (no they arent).
I am objecting to people using people dying to support their conspiracy theory and I am the one that deranged.

Really?

Sorry I don’t understand your grammar?

The government is not hiding numbers or bodies 🤦🏻‍♀️

The government doesn't have accurate numbers on how many people have the virus due to lack of testing, that's about it.

If we lives in Iran who are digging mass graves but have tiny numbers of be suspicious, but the UK government are not doing this.

Totally irresponsible reporting. I can guarantee that lots of people will read that and think it’s all a fuss about nothing.

This is my big fear, too Peapod - there are already too many idiots who thinks it's a lot of fuss about nothing, or that the "Spirit of the Blitz" and standing up to "Johnny Virus" is all we need.

Complacency could kill us all.

But if she is not in the figures (and she wasn't for friday) then it stands to believe they probably are others are missing due to not being diagnosed pre death.

Or whatever the reason for publicly known cases to be missing from official figures.

Andrew Neil - 'Guidance, please. Is Imperial’s Neil Ferguson, whose modelling gave us the 250,000 deaths projection and led to lockdown, now saying UK deaths 'could be substantially lower' than 20,000 -- and two thirds would have died in the next 6 months anyway?'

I have to admit I don't follow the idea that giving anyone hope means we will all be out on the streets doing what we want? Why will no one will believe that we can have hope and still realise we need to maintain social distancing to keep things looking up.
Yes there will always be arseholes as this last weekend has shown, but they will find any reason to be out there. To starve everyone of hope through fear is surely not the best way to go?

@Angryrant55 So he is saying the mortality rate this year will only be 6,000 more than average? That will be easy to assess at the end if the year.

Itsnotthatcomplicated

I'm not missing any point, you said people, 2/3 weeks ago "had" to x y or z... no they bloody well didn't, it was advice, like eating 5 a day or sticking to 14 units per week..... pretty much ignored, just as most govt advice is ignored.

Even now you can step off a plane that has flown in from Madrid and pop into to Tesco's on you way home, its criminal really.

There was little in place 2 or 3 weeks ago, you can try and re write history but we all heard the PM stating its fine to shake hands & the Cheltenham festival went ahead, as did that weekends football.

League football was only stopped when layers and a manger caught CV.

jasjas raking over what could have been done differently helps no one

Right now our numbers aren’t following the same trajectory as Italy

Also, Italy’s numbers are showing no signs of slowing despite their longer and more stringent lock down

This virus isn’t following the same rules in all cases

No one knows what was right or wrong expect with the benefit of hindsight

We need to focus on what we can do moving forwards and less of the coulda, woulda, shoulda

I'm not missing any point, you said people, 2/3 weeks ago "had" to x y or z... no they bloody well didn't, it was advice, like eating 5 a day or sticking to 14 units per week..... pretty much ignored, just as most govt advice is ignored

They were told to isolate. The advice from nhs direct was 'if you returned from italy on or after march 9th you must isolate regardless of wether you have symptoms or not.' The word MUST means it they were told to the MUST. The fact that people didnt is by the by. Just like people, are ignoring the current rules. Or are you saying the lockdown we have is just advice too?

There was little in place 2 or 3 weeks ago, you can try and re write history but we all heard the PM stating its fine to shake hands & the Cheltenham festival went ahead, as did that weekends football.

There was little in place? So there was something. That's not nothing. Social distancing started march 4th. See the earlier link.

The fact that cheltenham went ahead when other things were cancelled doesnt mean anything. It should have gone ahead they expected smaller numbers and thought people who were sick wouldnt go. It doesnt appear to be the case.

The fact is, there were things in place. People returning for certain countries were isolating. People with fevers and coughs started to isolate 2 weeks ago. Not enough to reduce numbers now and maybe not enough overall. But to say there was nothing in place is rewriting history.

Andrew Neil - 'Guidance, please. Is Imperial’s Neil Ferguson, whose modelling gave us the 250,000 deaths projection and led to lockdown, now saying UK deaths 'could be substantially lower' than 20,000 -- and two thirds would have died in the next 6 months anyway?'

Is that what has been said by Neil Ferguson? If so that is yet more extremely encouraging news!

Also, Italy’s numbers are showing no signs of slowing despite their longer and more stringent lock down

I’d be interested to know why that is the case - surely if they’re in strict lockdown then the virus will have to run out of steam soon?

There was very little in place 2-3 weeks ago. Lets not rewrite history. And lots of people complaining that these returning tourists were having to take cabs or public transport to get home before self isolating.
Also our own Royal family ignored the advice to self isolate on return from Italy. Which was not setting a good example.

Cheltenham was encouraged to go ahead as were other large gatherings. We are not stupid. Too many rich people make money from Cheltenham to close it down.

The reason the government has now acted is because so many employers told their staff to self isolate, so many parents were taking their kids out of school and so public sector employees were self isolating. Basically their hand was forced. They had always said they wanted to keep schools open till Easter.

The government can't hide deaths, at least not in large numbers and not for very long. Most people have families. Those families have easy access to social media, journalists if they wanted. Many who die will have jobs which they mysteriously wouldn't be returning to. They will have bills and rent and mortgages which would suddenly be going unpaid.

Thousands of people disappearing is very noticeable.

If the situation was "much worse than we're being told" then we'd be hearing about it from other sources and we'd be seeing the evidence all over twitter et al.. Think of all the institutions involved in this and the millions of people involved.

Please don't believe whatever some random nobody posts on MN without proper scrutiny. Think for yourself and remember anyone can post anything on here. I could post that my friend said their doctor uncle said that coronavirus was sent by aliens to prepare for the second coming of Christ, but that doesn't make it true. And you'd probably not believe me, because it's obvious nonsense. But that doesn't mean you should believe every post you read because it's not outright ridiculous.

Lets not rewrite history.

I do wish people would stop saying this

No one is attempting to rewrite history - it’s just some of us see no value in banging on about what could have been done differently, especially on the back of lower than expected death rates

There are people on this thread who are determined to make this feel and sound as bad a possible

It’s absolutely shite as it is without you all competing to spread more misery

There was very little in place 2-3 weeks ago. Lets not rewrite history. And lots of people complaining that these returning tourists were having to take cabs or public transport to get home before self isolating.

Little and nothing are 2 different things.

That's the point. Cheltenham certainly should have gone ahead. Event were already been cancelled. Just like the sterophonics concert should have gone ahead.

Still not proof the was nothing in place.

“Lower than expected death rates”?

Some people seem to have missed the government’s own tweet from yesterday which clearly stated the statistics did not cover a 24 hour period.

Yes deft but Italy were rising at hundreds of deaths a day at this point.

Hopefully a few hours difference in reporting isn’t going to unveil anything like those numbers

Yet again an example of people looking for there to be a much worse underlying story based on very little

Mirror Breaking News - 'Three more coronavirus patients die in Northern Ireland as death toll reaches 10.'