Wait a second ... how do we do custody exchanges?!

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Nothing in Boris' message about travel to exchange children for contact.

What is the legal position here?

If will be covered by providing care to a vulnerable person.

All children are classed as vulnerable people due to age.

You are collecting them to provide them with care.

@NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite so why can I not drop them off at that 1 persons house or they come to us and we have to instead send them to 2 different buildings with multiple adults and increase those adults chances of catching it?

I have my child 50:50 - she just went back to ex today for 2 days. Am I really not going to see her for 3/6 weeks?

He lives alone and is exactly 3 streets away, she's 5 and he's a bit of a shit parent - surely I can still see her, walk over and do exchange in the street/doorstep just like I did today. If I suggest that she stay in 1 place right now he'll say she needs to stay with him. He's a poisonous, nasty man who likes to try her against me and will use this as a weapon.

I'm heartbroken. Those people saying dont pass the kids back and forth or move them now we're in lockdown maybe aren't facing not seeing their 5 year old for the next couple of months, she certainly won't be any more at risk than those kids of key workers who are still in school

Lots of people will still be going to work because they can't work from home.

she certainly won't be any more at risk than those kids of key workers who are still in school

Exactly.

Some powerful words from a friend who is a nurse working with the NHS

@MyFirstMyLastMyEverythingBagel I completely agree. By keeping movement for my DC between their two houses only, I am lessening exposure for them and other children/ teachers and I can continue working.

I have children with exes, it goes without saying that they will still live between houses. Parents are immediate family. When my eldest is at his dad's, he is part of that family. When he is with me, we are a family.
There is nothing to worry about. Children being with their parents isn't going to be policed ffs.

Fucking hell. Yet again, people finding reasons for the rules not to apply to them. I hope the lot of you get fined.

Think of it in this scenario.
Mum takes kid to shop for food at location A. They pick up cv19 there. Are unaware.
Dad picks up kid and goes straight to his. Hi catches cv19. Takes kid back to mum. He is unaware.
Dad goes to his supermarket in location B. Passes it on to a few people there.

So what would've been a case of it only passing to some people in location A has passed onto more people at location B.

Thia is the whole point of stay within your household. It's to minimise the risk of spreading.

Simple as!

I’d happily get fined. If my child saw his parent. This is it people going in a jolly. It’s children seeing their parent.

I hope the lot of you get fined

Is it better for a doctor to not go to work because she has to look after her children or for the nurse to share childcare with an ex partner so she can do work in the NHS?

Or send her child to a school full of other children carrying a virus?

*this is not

@DrFoxtrot yes. I'm hoping that work will have some clarity on the situation tomorrow. Fast moving changes. We were told not to send them into school if we had trusted childcare arrangements previously.

@chocolatesaltyballs22 which scenario shall I choose for care of my DC while I work? Transfer to their dad for the days I need (in one block so only two transfers a week back and forth) or sending them to two different schools (primary and secondary) that are open for children of key workers?

Or shall I not work until lockdown is over?

Not a case of immediate family. It's a case of household.

Honestly I am utterly flabbergasted at the amount of numpties! Maybe this virus will do us a favour and get rid of the brainless!

Simply say you cannot condon putting people at risk so you must stay home with your children.

@MyFirstMyLastMyEverythingBagel I initially asked the schools to keep places for the DC but cancelled them as suitable arrangements were made. I do think moving children between the houses in this case is acceptable and not bending the rules to fit.

Mine have been at their dads as Im a keyworker and he can work from home. They're due back tomorrow as Im now off. Children are still at school so school keyworkers who are following the guidance to keep children away from schools if other childcare is available surely can't be penalised. If it comes down to not seeing my children for 3 works, I'm not going to work.

OK @microhorse what about the key workers, the doctors, nurses, cleaners, shop workers who HAVE to go to work as they don't have a choice? What should they do about childcare?

If it comes down to not seeing my children for 3 works, I'm not going to work

This is what's going to happen.

Having children go to their other parent when one is a key worker is lower risk than sending them into school for childcare. But it's still higher risk than them staying in the one household. Unless you are all completely isolating other than contact with each other for handover purposes, you're different households. If you were to gather in the park, for instance, the police would have powers to fine and/or disperse you. They wouldn't care that there was a common child between two of you. Separate households.

what about the key workers, the doctors, nurses, cleaners, shop workers who HAVE to go to work as they don't have a choice? What should they do about childcare

This

I have kids who are vulnerable so I’ve just raked the horrible decision to not see them for 12 weeks.

It’s the right thing to do but it’s bloody tough

Please feel for all the parents (probably dads) who are in that boat

Weeks even! He hasn't thought it through, there's always a clarification speech the following day. Lets see.