Full lockdown? Yes or No?

[SoleBizzz]

Yes

Yes.

And I want it spanish style. No outside at all unless 100% necessary. No, I am not one of those prats on FB. I pulled my children from school early, I have social distanced to the extent suggested for over 70s and have done for 2 weeks. I still want lockdown; half this country is seemingly too selfish to give a fuck about the rest. I do not like the police or the army, I had bad experiences of both in several countries in my childhood. I still want an enforced lockdown.

A million times yes. Who could disagree unless they're a brain-dead thicko?

Yes.

I do think we need lockdown measures, but I do worry about how long it will last and it being abused by the government. I trust the Tories even less than I trust the public, which isn't a lot.

Would you still be pro lockdown months from now if it does get enforced?

@Stellaris22 I'd feel that way if it was Thatcher or actually Blair (he was very authoritarian) but not Boris Johnson. Not because I think he's a trustworthy person, I don't trust him as far as I could throw him in other ways, but because he's a libertarian who has been very arguably too wishy washy and is only now catching up.

I think we're reluctant here compared to continental Europe because we haven't had dictators herd since the absolute Monarchs like Henry VIII and Elizabeth I. Whereas the continent has been under Nazi and also Communist USSR in many cases, and Spain only became a modern democracy after Franco inn1975. And authoritarian French Presidents have been the most popular (Charles De Gaul for example). They're also used to having to carry their ID cards and car documents with them.

Whatever restrictions are pushed through now - we won’t be getting our freedoms back after this is over..

Sadly, I think you are right Plom.

What freedoms do you mean Plom?

Yes

@PlomBear what, so no one will be ever to ever leave the house without showing ID, in groups of more than one? Don't be ridiculous. If it was data heavy recording like China then yep probably. Aren't you working on a military base? Do you think they will be on duty forever enforcing it? Unless we do a completely different lockdown to the rest of Europe of course.

Don’t talk rubbish @PlomBear

Yes

A million times yes. Who could disagree unless they're a brain-dead thicko?

Only a brain dead thicko rushes into giving away their civil liberators to a bunch of entitled rich arseholes who hate them without a second's thought.

I oppose ID cards, I oppose military enforcement of civil rules. I oppose martial law. It might just be justified in this case but let's please do the scrutiny required.

Listening to it in the House of Commons now.

We won't be able to do anything about it if they bring in the most draconian measures now - unless his own party rebel.

It saddens me to say it...... but I think the time has come for full lock down.

It’s a shame, I really feel for those with kids and no gardens through the nice weather, but it needs to be done now. It’s not too bad yet where I live, but unless we act now it will be in a week or two and the whole country will look like London.

It's a bit weird to cry for lockdown while hairdressers and furniture shops are still open. Why haven't the government closed EVERYTHING except food shops and pharmacies?? So, stupid people will go and wander round shops, get their hair done, and then lockdown will have to happen with us trapped in our houses when they could have slowed the virus 2weeks ago! Why such a wishy washy response in the early stages?
Anyway, yes, in answer, but no if we had followed Ireland's lead to begin with.

yes

No, the potential loss of life has to be balanced with the loss of freedom. I read an interesting comment that pointed out that if we had surrendered quickly before World War 2 we could have saved many, many lives, I wonder how many of those calling for lock down now would have called for surrender then?

Only a brain dead thicko rushes into giving away their civil liberators to a bunch of entitled rich arseholes who hate them without a second's thought

I oppose ID cards, I oppose military enforcement of civil rules. I oppose martial law. It might just be justified in this case but let's please do the scrutiny required

I agree.

.Yes
I'm a student atm who used to work on icu
I am waiting for the phone call to tell me to go back
I'm scared

They can’t tell you to do anything. If you don’t want to go. Don’t

@hamsterchump

I read an interesting comment that pointed out that if we had surrendered quickly before World War 2 we could have saved many, many lives, I wonder how many of those calling for lock down now would have called for surrender then?

That actually isn't true. 6 million Jews were exterminated in occupied Europe, Slavs would have been next. (I'm half Czech so my family wouldn't have survived most likely. Gays were persecuted as well, as were gypsies.

More would have been exterminated if Hitler had won the war too, he wouldn't have stopped.

It wasn't true for the Russians either, Stalin killed far more of them than died in the war.

But I do agree that decisions are not as black and white as some people would like to believe.

Yes

Yes. I had to travel into the city today for work related reasons. I live in a town 10 miles away.
I had no choice but to get a bus. I came home shaken and even more depressed.

I don't give a shit about civil liberties at the moment. I just want my loved ones to live. My elderly parents, my brother on the frontline of the NHS. My friends with health issues.

PM should have done it on Friday when he shut the pubs. Every day is a ticking time bomb.
You may feel safe and secluded in the affluent areas but there are big sections of society out there, particularly in the cities , who are totally ignoring all advice and letting their kids out to do whatever they want, including going up to people and coughing in their faces

We need lock down now.

I really don't want a lockdown. I wish everyone could just follow the rules.