Full lockdown? Yes or No?

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Yes

Yes, of course. Should have been sooner. They’ve wasted too much time already.

Yes, doctors and nurses knew what they’d signed up for but nobody has seen the like of this for 100 years.

Yes the NHS staff are going to see hell, reducing the level is worth people staying in for.

Where are all these people who are out and about? I live in one of the most touristy cities on the planet. It's like a ghost town. I don't know a single person who's going out...

Well Lucky you.
There are other places where tourists and locals are going out in huge numbers because it was a nice day today!
Plenty people who are twittering on about their right to go anywhere, do whatever they please.

I work in retail. It was like a bank holiday day out for families today! Just what part of social distancing is difficult?
Pushing forwards to the tills before previous customer had even stepped up to the card machine. I wanted to shout at people to back the fuck off so many times today.

Putting stuff on belt before the person in front had 3 things out their of thier trolley and Having to be told to move thier stuff back!

Elderly grandparents getting in sweets for grandkids visiting this week. Locals in for thier usual shopping commenting on how busy the beach front was.
Many people are idiots it seems and this crisis is bringing them out in force!

Yes

Carers can still visit the elderly if we have lockdown. Same with midwives and other nhs people. Essential work still carries on in other countries with the same problems.
Mental health problems will escalate, but with all our technology hopefully people will get help even if it is via a video link and medication.- enough so they can survive until this is over. Mental health problems aren’t passed on like a virus. Harsh but true.
There isn’t a cure for cv, nor a vaccine. If you get it, you’ve a very high chance you will pass it on and someone will die, quite possible more than one person too.
If only people would be sensible and heed advice....

I dont want to go for martial law. I would rather everyone used common sense. I dont want to be stuck in my house but people are refusing to stop gathering in large numbers, refusing to close pubs and cafe's and the terminally stupid are filling them then going to work/home/visit relatives etc.
What is it going to take to make people act responsibly?

Yes 100%
DH is not grasping this. Oh I'll just go out and pick up....no. if you leave you're not coming back for 14 days!!
Italy had the same death rate 2 weeks ago as we have today.
Now is not a time to take any chances.

I think it will have to happen and soon. Soft approach isn't working.
People just refuse to listen and do what they are told.
Beauty spot near us, fb pics of it totally packed. Nobody keeping apart from others, all close together.

So - if it does happen. How is the government going to enforce it?

Jointed late to this thread so in true Mumsnet style the answers are getting longer. I'll not beat about the bush any longer … my answer is

YES

Yes

The later you leave it, the more it gets out of control - and the eventual lockdown has to be much longer

I am a nurse and i have a responsibility...

yes, Wednesday.

"How is the government going to enforce it?"

The same as any other government: with police, military and legal penalties

The UK is not some wild ungovernable country, different to any other

No.

I can’t actually believe how many people are asking, begging, to give up their basic human rights. Do you understand that once a lock down is in force we will have NO control whatsoever at when it is lifted? None at all. You, and your children, will be forced to remain in your houses and told when you can leave them and for how long and for what purpose until the state decides you can have your freedom back. You THINK the lock down will be for a short period - but how do you know? No one knows how this virus situation will play out in the UK.

Yes it is important to save lives. To save as many as we can. But at what cost? It’s a balancing act. And I think we’ve gone as far along in that balancing act as a democratic country should go in peacetime.

People can be asked, strongly, to abide by the restrictions. And if most people follow then that will slow the virus. And if the most vulnerable choose to isolate then that too will slow it. That is enough. The country is already grinding to a halt anyway.

Yes but sadly I think it’s too late.

Yes

I guess you don't work in an icu ward Rosachoc12

I think it will happen but honestly I believe the best course of action would have been just to let it take its course in the first place and lock down the vulnerable, rather than vice-versa.

For those who are arguing against a lockdown, you’ve obviously not seen the statistics. The UK is currently at the same death rate as Italy was - do you really want thousands dying - probably alone.

A lockdown is currently the only solution to slow down the rate. The public have already ignored instructions to stay at home and that will only get worse now the schools have closed and better weather is forecast.

Yes, the prevention is worse than the deaths caused by the disease. Wait and see.

Other European countries, and obviously China, have obviously ended up doing it. I doubt they'll become police states. This government doesn't want to do it, so this isn't about them wanting to control our lives.

No one wants martial law. It's just that they'd rather have that than have a whole lot of the population die or need ICU care, because the NHS couldn't cope.

I have MH issues myself and hate all of this. I hate seeing my DD1's disappointment that she won't get to have a birthday treat (we were going to arrange an ice skating party for her); it will just be a birthday tea here, the four of us, though I am arranging for her to have video calls with extended family and a few friends.

Most of all, however, I hate being ill with this virus. I'm willing to go with the best strategy to stop others experiencing what I'm going thro and worse.

The virus scares me, a lockdown terrifies me. We don’t know enough about how the virus works to justify a lockdown, a lockdown may kill the virus but it for sure will destroy a lot of other things. We need to protect ourselves, our key workers and test test test and throw everything at antivirals, vaccines etc.

I guess you don't work in an icu ward Rosachoc12

I guess you've never lived or travelled in somewhere with roadblocks and military in charge.

@Rosachoc12 absolutely. I wish I could say I can't believe what I'm hearing, but these days nothing surprises me. Dangerous path to go down and I think very much a case of be careful what you wish for