Piss off out the countryside

[orangeandbananas]

Aibu to think the idiots who have all fled from towns to the countryside are incredibly selfish.
I live in a small rural estate.
There are quite obviously people from towns and cities coming together on gatherings suddenly 'embracing' the countryside.
Ok fine; but they apparently can't stick to the public footpaths where they can all infect each other. Instead they keep coming off the footpath and walking the mile to our estate from it and hanging about.
The average age on our estate is 70+. I don't know anyone else that is under 70 and many are 90+ I haven't seen anyone leave their houses for a long time but today I saw a very elderly frail man take a walk on the estate and he was leaning on a bench when a load of teenagers came right up to the boundary of the road to our estate and I saw the man try to get away but he couldn't fast enough and nearly fell over from trying.

We live in isolation anyway generally. This is the first time we've had to deal with so many people coming through our field off the public footpath.
I wish they'd stay away. I also wish less risk people would understand what social distancing means. If they're venturing into our estate I've no doubt they're off gallivanting on to further farms etc. Which can only heighten the problems we face today. These dc are not from the rural area. I've never seen so many cars parked near the footpath. It's so daft it's upsetting.

Boris has warned we will have to go to lockdown. Is this really what people want?
Get out of the countryside if you don't live here. It's obvious so many elderly people live here. Come back in better times.

Going out for exercise on foot in your local area - necessary. Driving to nearby beauty-spots to exercise - not necessary

I don't understand the logic behind this distinction tbh. How can walking around my populated village (or walking through my populated village to the woods) possibly be better than driving out of my village in my car (thereby avoiding any encounters with pedestrians) and to a deserted beauty spot to walk my dog?

Privileged rural bubble. I can honestly say there is nothing of privilege living in north wales. Many people round here do not travel to cities regularly they cant afford it same goes for holidays. Many of these rural communities are the same I imagine. I love where I live but it is not some idyllic existence that some people think.

And the virus 'belongs' to everyone. Unnecessarily mixing people from different areas - some of which might otherwise have stayed clear for longer - is going to cost lives. What do you not understand about this?

There are rural hotspots for the virus, there are urban hotspots.

So I couldnt agree more that mixing people from different areas is going to cost lives. That was my whole point

The beauty spots aren't deserted that's the problem. Local woodland park has had to shut its car parks because there were too many people trying to go walking there. Normally in march it would be a few locals at most. They have been parking on the side of roads, in residents only car parks etc. There is nothing deserted about this beauty spot and it really is beautiful.

If you can find a 'deserted beauty spot' today, fine - the point was that lots of people from different areas are driving to beauty spots so they are not deserted.

@Orangeandbananas is not entitled, it's common sense. The services just aren't there to support them. It's frustrating. Staff are being redeployed, more serious non corona cases being sent elsewhere. What do people think is happening ? Most of our rural services don't even have in house consultants. Most of the time consultants are there to do a morning/afternoon or all day clinic once a month. This clinics will now be cancelled for all but urgent cases. We struggle to fill posts as it is. It's expected that staff will get sick as well , or have to self isolate so staff numbers will drop even further.

I live in the countryside and don't feel like it belongs to me. Sorry but you sound a bit NIMBY

How can walking around my populated village (or walking through my populated village to the woods) possibly be better than driving out of my village in my car (thereby avoiding any encounters with pedestrians) and to a deserted beauty spot to walk my dog?

Because everyone is having exactly the same 'brilliant idea' and the beauty spots are rammed. If everyone stays in their own locality there is less chance of the virus being passed from one community to another. If you from Village A go to a beauty spot a few miles away and find a crowd from Villages B and C who've done the same, it only takes some of the Village B or C folk to be infectious, and bang! You're taking the virus home with you to Village A.

You might counter that you are social distancing and staying three metres from others, but can you be sure an excited child from Village B won't run into you, or a dog walker from Village C won't barge past you because her dog's ignoring its recall?

I am in a major European city in lockdown. Advice here is yes go for a walk, get some air but do it in your own neighbourhood, don't travel even to get to a park within the same city. Police have been stopping cars going towards the coast, forest etc and unless you live or work there you'll be turned back.

@Cinammoncake some people might well be

@BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser thank you for sharing the numbers. It is startling how many people in the UK are ignoring the statistics and going about the day with their "it wont happen to us" attitude. The truth is they are estimating that 80% of our population will become infected. So yes, it is actually highly likely it could happen to you.

And for all those popping out for a walk because "It's just me and the family" and you will stay away from everyone else...

And this is just one seaside, Hove, out of the whole country. The parks, forests, walking spots and far more places are also rammed.

As someone else said...just leaving this here:

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/301397

@SuperlativeScrubs I really think that this shows how many people actually have a look at news from outside of UK. They don't see the coffins and pain.

You can see numbers and history here if you want to keep an eye www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

@MNnicknameforCVthreads signed. It's needed. Sadly general public can't be trusted

Privileged living in North Wales our hospital board has been in special measures for four years. We have a window in the spring before the visitors descend, then a window in September after they have gone to enjoy where we live. The rest of the time we rub along with holidaymakers in the good weather. Our bins are collected every four weeks!!! Our rates went up 9.7% last year 4.7% this year. Our wages are low many on zero hour contracts because we are seasonal. Gwynedd/Anglesey has one hospital to serve a huge region.

Many of us work in areas where which are not dependent on tourism, so whether you are here or not is of no matter to us. All we ask is that you keep away whilst we all fight this awful virus.

I don't think this is nimbyism. I live in a national park near the sea. The place is packed with tourists, some people ha .ve come to stay in their caravans. Our local hospital doesn't have much capacity for ICU beds, our shops already have empty shelves. Tourism brings a lot of money and work here. Normally I have no time for people who moan about toursits but in these circumstances I wish they would go home.

I am also in Snowdonia justasking our hospitals don't have the samecapacity as those in cities.

I live in conwy hilarious to think I'm privileged. I had surgery at llandudno hospital a couple of years back. It was cancelled twice because the one lift in the hospital was broken and then because they didnt have a surgeon.... I bask in my privilege

Nothing wrong with a walk wherever they want, they have just as much a right to be anywhere as you, but they should try an keep the recommended 2m between themselves and others.

@Selenaw that's exactly what we need here.

This might become mainstream soon

@MNnicknameforCVthreads signed

Police have been stopping cars going towards the coast, forest etc and unless you live or work there you'll be turned back

This is what we will have in the UK next. Because people cannot be responsible. Common sense has gone out of the window for a day out jolly under the guise of “fresh air” or “my mental health”. With zero thought for the impact these actions have.

Spreading the virus to areas that have limited hospital provision and putting more pressure on the small amount of shops they have. It’s selfish.
But crack on hun, your rights are more important... until they are taken away and then you will have to comply.

@BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser might stick that up as a large poster on the fence...

Well the 2 meters might be recommended but think about it.

Let's have a math problem. There is 3851 people who decided Snowdon climb might be just the right cure for world pandemic.
A walks and coughs. It's ok because he is 2 meters away from everyone, right?
Within 15 seconds (taking the scenery in so walking slow) B who is 2 meters behind gets to the point where A coughed. The virus lasts up to 3 hours in the air. Imagining there is no wind and everyone travels the same speed, how many people will walk through the spot where A coughed in next 2 hours? (Allowing here for error and for the fact that by the end of 2 hours all droplets should have found new home).

Another one.
Local hospital is 54 minutes away from village A (population of 980) and 46 minutes away from village B (population of 1200). Hospital has 19 ambulances and 8 ICU beds.
How many people will die after Dickhead who had a cough but "It's not like that thing ya no" decided to go stay and do some shopping in A and B for few days.

Signed petition
3 weeks of lockdown better than 12 months + of a half lived life.
Easter coming loads of people irrespective of pandemic will be off anyway looking to amuse theirselves and a possible last chance to get out and about.
Where I live its busy too.
Quite possibly due to restuarants closed.
I wish this had started in November no bugger wants to leave home then.
We get long dark winters here in UK I think people feel entitled.
But yes, embrace the countryside after the event quarantine towns so you access your own resources.
I dont think I have ever witnessed so much selfishness as over the last few days, the world is becoming a sad place indeed.