Piss off out the countryside

[orangeandbananas]

Aibu to think the idiots who have all fled from towns to the countryside are incredibly selfish.
I live in a small rural estate.
There are quite obviously people from towns and cities coming together on gatherings suddenly 'embracing' the countryside.
Ok fine; but they apparently can't stick to the public footpaths where they can all infect each other. Instead they keep coming off the footpath and walking the mile to our estate from it and hanging about.
The average age on our estate is 70+. I don't know anyone else that is under 70 and many are 90+ I haven't seen anyone leave their houses for a long time but today I saw a very elderly frail man take a walk on the estate and he was leaning on a bench when a load of teenagers came right up to the boundary of the road to our estate and I saw the man try to get away but he couldn't fast enough and nearly fell over from trying.

We live in isolation anyway generally. This is the first time we've had to deal with so many people coming through our field off the public footpath.
I wish they'd stay away. I also wish less risk people would understand what social distancing means. If they're venturing into our estate I've no doubt they're off gallivanting on to further farms etc. Which can only heighten the problems we face today. These dc are not from the rural area. I've never seen so many cars parked near the footpath. It's so daft it's upsetting.

Boris has warned we will have to go to lockdown. Is this really what people want?
Get out of the countryside if you don't live here. It's obvious so many elderly people live here. Come back in better times.

We have our own neanderthals in areas of N. Wales who are vehemently anti tourism. I wouldn`t trust them not to do anything stupid to those arriving to their second homes.

@sarahinaccounts I'm staggered that people are too short sighted to see the extra pressure on services, that are on an emergency footing, to the point of cancelling all non urgent services during a pandemic. Mountain rescue don't usually issue statements asking people to stay away.

And now we see where we get when selfish people want to share.

Cheers for that. I now fully expect to be moved away from my family in order to limit my travel and to ensure I can work.

My elderly parents will be appalled. And frightened. But hey it is all about sharing eh?

No excuse for violence. None at all.

Thesispieces this may distribute the healthcare demand more evenly across the country.

Are you not listening? Healthcare resources are not evenly spread across the country, so there is no point spreading demand!

I wouldn't actually do anything violent. But I feel fucking violent about it.

hoping this may distribute the healthcare demand more evenly across the country
My local hospital has zero ICU beds, we also have an elderly population, in the event of needing something like that you're shipped off to Inverness normally via air. Yet people have still flocked up here, we have nothing to share. It hasn't evenly distributed it will cause utter chaos and strain on an already strained system.

London has the best per capita ratio of ITU and CC beds of anywhere in the country: nearly enough to cope with the resident population. The SW, especially west of Bristol, falls short by 600%, and is the worst in the UK. So right now, it's not a good place to take a holiday with your aged parents.

We have 7 adult icu beds with a permanent population of 350,000, not exactly plenty of space. So per capita it's a bit shit.

That's lucky for Londoners seeing as flights are still coming in. Someone put up a photo of Heathrow airport today. Packed. All those people will have travelled through London to and from the airport. I share the concerns about rural areas suffering from a sudden influx of additional residents. Something our government also seems concerned about. Hence their advice to people not to go there. Shame they don't have the same concern for the millions living in cities.

Out of interest, do you know the actual numbers of ICU beds in London? There's nearly 9 million people in London.

What a shame successive governments have let things get to this stage. Everywhere should have well equipped beds.

tryingtoprep Agreed! It is insanity that flights are coming into London and people are walking out into a population of millions! And I hope now that the underfunding of the NHS has been thrown into such sharp relief, voters across all socio-economic classes make it their number one priority when choosing who to vote for. It's the only way politicians will make it a priority.

My understanding is London has most per capita ITU and HDU beds, because it has specialist centres doing more complex surgeries not just for London residents but to England (Scotland, Wales, NI are different).
Anyone see the pics of the Barra “hospital facility” this evening? Rows of camp beds in a village hall, for the expected cases.

The virus has spread further and faster in London, but that makes London ahead just now, the rest of the UK will catch up (sadly).

BoJo has now stopped movement, but flights...I think they are still allowed to land!

We don't have the beds !!!!!! It's as simple as that. We Do Not Have The beds. It's not a story, it's not mass hysteria, it's just fact.

Plenty of those landing at Heathrow won't live in London either. Some might live rurally and will have made their way home... We rely should have stopped mass movement weeks ago for everyone's sake. I agree the second homers shouldn't have flocked to the countryside (although I have sympathy for the ones who are in higher risk groups, brought their own provisions, and are self isolating). I'm not a fan of second homes anyway but that's another issue. I wish the government had acted to protect all of us - hamlet, village, town, or city, weeks ago.

I wonder if Boris couldn't completely stop second home people going because he himself has one? I don't know if he's spending all his time in London? I suspect his fiancee, being pregnant, is at the country residence.

I hope everyone wherever you live on here stays safe.

When I said country people would have to share I meant share their wide open spaces. City dwellers should be allowed to drive into the country for a walk somewhere pleasant without their accents being questioned by pitchfork carrying locals..

City parks etc are closed. If people live half an hour from a lovely place they are entitled to visit it for a walk for the sake of their mental health.

We have had strangers wandering around here but they are keeping their distance and I don't begrudge them in the least.

Some really nasty people on this thread.

So there is.

And there are also people too entitled to grasp why people - not pitchfork wielding yokels - are genuinely concerned.

But selfish and stupid seem to go hand in hand these days.

@SarahInAccounts you're clearly going to keep on driving about and nodding at strangers so I think it's time to give it a rest with the country stereotypes.

There's no pitchfork yielding people around here. Simply those that think the people who aren't from round here managed perfectly fjne before. We aren't close to a city so I'm hoping Boris message was enough you say go somewhere else 'isolated'
I doubt very much the lager can carrying obese men that turned up the other day are regulars to any park prior to the pandemic so you carry on believing the country folk are pitch fork waving crazy folk.
At least if you do believe that you might stay out

Cumbria is in the top 10 places of most cases in the Times today, 110 cases.
Obviously it was high before today too.

Idiots will have caught it there at the weekend and taken it back home.

During normal times happy to see people visit. We have capacity for the visitors that take ill, get lost, need air lift rescue. At the moment that's not possible. It happens a lot, the coastguard and air ambulance fly over my house often on a daily basis and that's just the ones that have to be airlifted. Our staff levels will soon start to reduce, beds and capacity will therefore reduce. The mrt rescues at the weekend were visitors. A lock down means more pressure on services to check on elderly, vulnerable and disabled. Look at the whole picture . Thanks for your support of over stretched services who get sick too.

Surely people wont be driving to the countryside now as it isnt one of the 4 reasons you can leave the house.... well we can dream anyway.
Yesterday ogwen mountain rescue got a call from a guy from Birmingham that got stuck in a crevice, he had no gear and was only wearing trainers and normal clothing. After rescuing him, he asked where he could go for a climb tomorrow instead as he wanted to get some good pictures. These are the idiots people are getting annoyed about. They are putting strain on already overstretched services and have zero regard for the places they are going.

@fluffyoldbears

you're clearly going to keep on driving about and nodding at strangers so I think it's time to give it a rest with the country stereotypes.

Do keep up. I have no need to, never said I would. But some people do have a need to drive somewhere to exercise and IT IS ALLOWED IN THE REGULATIONS. Sorry for shouting but some people still don't get it.

I doubt very much the lager can carrying obese men that turned up the other day are regulars to any park prior to the pandemic so you carry on believing the country folk are pitch fork waving crazy folk.

I would never have thought that some country people were vile until I read this thread. I am one but welcome those in need of some space. The proof of how vile some are is in what people have posted. Really nasty stuff.

@SarahInAccounts no it is not allowed in the regulations . You can only ‘travel to and from work’, or for ‘essential food or medication’that is all no other reason other that where you are supporting someone vulnerable .

You must stay at home