Piss off out the countryside

[orangeandbananas]

Aibu to think the idiots who have all fled from towns to the countryside are incredibly selfish.
I live in a small rural estate.
There are quite obviously people from towns and cities coming together on gatherings suddenly 'embracing' the countryside.
Ok fine; but they apparently can't stick to the public footpaths where they can all infect each other. Instead they keep coming off the footpath and walking the mile to our estate from it and hanging about.
The average age on our estate is 70+. I don't know anyone else that is under 70 and many are 90+ I haven't seen anyone leave their houses for a long time but today I saw a very elderly frail man take a walk on the estate and he was leaning on a bench when a load of teenagers came right up to the boundary of the road to our estate and I saw the man try to get away but he couldn't fast enough and nearly fell over from trying.

We live in isolation anyway generally. This is the first time we've had to deal with so many people coming through our field off the public footpath.
I wish they'd stay away. I also wish less risk people would understand what social distancing means. If they're venturing into our estate I've no doubt they're off gallivanting on to further farms etc. Which can only heighten the problems we face today. These dc are not from the rural area. I've never seen so many cars parked near the footpath. It's so daft it's upsetting.

Boris has warned we will have to go to lockdown. Is this really what people want?
Get out of the countryside if you don't live here. It's obvious so many elderly people live here. Come back in better times.

@willdoitinaminute
Really?
Didn't know that about the GPS Monitoring.
Excellent news!

the world is becoming a sad place indeed.

I can out some positive story (nkt from UK tho...)

People spend over a week sewing masks and donating them to anyone who needed including hospitals and similar, because there were simply no facemasks. Including shop assistants.
Everyone, no matter how rich or poor, famous or not, who could use sewing machine sew and sew and sew. And that is also why the infection curve in there is turning and gov said that in 3 weeks they should be able to start easing up on the quarantine.
Good people exist😁 And I am like super proud of my family there

@Selenaw
This needs to happen here NOW
Already many lives will be lost to this selfish fiasco.
Disgraceful, disgusting.
MURDERERS actually.
I loath it here now after this last week.
I always tried to see the good in people. Not any more.
I am concerned we haven't got a strong enough Police force or a
enough Army to control people. And we haven't.

Having grown up near Snowdon, the increase in visitors is understandably a worry to local people in rural areas especially as people have died in parts of north wales including children choking on foods, so i m not talking just elderly people from heart attacks because they live too far away from the nearest ambulance station when there isn't a pandemic going on.

So I can see why people in rural areas are worried, I live in a city now 5 minutes from a well-equipped a&e and they have a critical care unit but I don't think everyone always realises that some people don't have that luxury when they've never had to worry about it.

Of course people shouldn't be travelling unnecessarily. Like they shouldn't have been weeks ago.

Justasking At least one London hospital trust has been in special measures for a few years. It serves some very deprived communities and deals with a lot of knife crime and gang related injuries. Privilege. It's very subjective really. Some might prefer the unpolluted green spaces you benefit from. London and other urban centres have increased asthma cases because of the pollution levels. Wealthy Londoners might have good lives there but that's not the life of many very deprived communities who have the added problem of gang crime, the housing crisis, cramped poor quality living conditions. More hospitals than other areas but nearly 9 million people, many in poor health. People on here saying 45 or 54 minutes to their hospital. No different to reality for many in outer London. It's more difficult for many to get there too as London has less drivers than elsewhere.

I'm not making excuses for people going on holiday right now. Selfish, and clearly other areas also can't cope. It's a shame some posters didn't care about cities being infected and didn't shout and scream the way they are now to stop travel weeks ago. It's really not a competition. Poor resourcing is a national problem. We should all have well equipped public facilities including easy access to good healthcare.

We should all have well equipped public facilities including easy access to good healthcare

I think on the whole we do though.

But in the more remote areas they have facilities to accommodate the residents and perhaps a few more. In a lot of urgent cases this mean going to the nearest city.

I’m sure some will see that my old home town has a hospital and think they will be catered for if they pop here to get out of the smoke to the wilds. Not realising it is mainly a place for recovery (to free up beds from the city) or for the dying.

And the wards are full.

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I think that it all depends on whether you are maybe driving 10 minutes away to somewhere not too busy, having a walk, then driving home - perfectly fine.

Or

Driving a long distance away, so that your walk also involves using public toilets, needing to buy lunch/snacks from shops, and ending up in a busy area - really ridiculous as you are risking catching or spreading the covid virus.

Rather than thinking of it as country people v city people thin about keeping to the rules of social distancing and not going to known tourist hotspots. The reality is that if, presumably the city people who aren’t will result in lockdown and ultimately impacting those very people as those living very rurally will still be able to get out as there is no one there to notice.

So it’s quite simple, be sensible and we all get to enjoy a degree of freedom.

My best friend has a beautiful Airbnb. She cancelled all booking for the next few months ( 3 months at the moment ) .Since last Friday she has had 16 emails from various families and groups of friends begging her to rent it to them as they want to 'come to the country' as they are scared London will be in Lockdown...

Thankfully she has put her community ahead of her bank balance .
More people like her are needed to stop this spreading. With spring coming the virus will be in Devon and Cornwall around second homes before you can blink - at hospitals which are inadequately prepared for the type of numbers they will get.

People need to stop being so fucking selfish. Stay where they are. Stay in, go out only when actually essential and stop moving around the country .

Went walking in remote area where i never see a soul, usually, today. In 2 hours we passed 24 people, most trudging across farmers fields, avoiding the footpaths!

Curious to know whether many tourists are visiting Eyam today.

I thought of them. We don't seem to get any brighter, so we?

I live on Ashdown Forest in East Sussex. A ranger has just posted on Facebook that usually at this time of year over a weekend it gets about 1500 visitors per day. He has estimated 10,000 today. Ten fucking thousand.

It isn't just bringing it to isolated communities, or overburdening their health services. The likelihood is these people will be back home before they get sick.

The issue is we're supposed to be socially distancing. People swooping to tourist hotspots from all over the country are putting their own friends, families, and local communities in danger as much as anyone.

It's the case of "Well now I shouldn't, I REALLY want to do it", isn't it

Do you think people in the countryside thought this this when thousands of children were evacuated to it from the cities during the war?

Did they bring deadly virus?

The attitude of some rural dwellers on here is mediaeval.

Flaming torches next? Awful people.

People are being encouraged to exercise. They will go into the countryside to do so. I live rurally and we have seen people walking around the village. We smile and nod from a distance.

We are civilised, unlike some on this thread.

@BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser
No. But the odds are that these people won't have brought it either

I for one would have happily had an evacuated dc in a war zone. My father was one!

That is incomparable to a virus that could kill you, it's much harder to embrace that. The virus spreading by people consistently leaving their home towns unnecessarily is optional. Dc potentially getting killed in the city's by bombs and therefore having exceptional measures to place them somewhere safer is not. Strange comment.

@SarahInAccounts have you had people coming onto your land as well then while you wave? That is trespassing regardless of any virus but more scary at times at the moment.

Italy today so far 651
Total Dead 5476.
Uk has 4th highest amount of dead in Europe (for now)
@itwasalovelydreamwhileitlasted well they can only hope so

I am in a major European city in lockdown. Advice here is yes go for a walk, get some air but do it in your own neighbourhood, don't travel even to get to a park within the same city. Police have been stopping cars going towards the coast, forest etc and unless you live or work there you'll be turned back.

Hopefully when the government belatedly realises that they can't trust all of the public to behave sensibly they'll do that, not a complete 'absolutely essential trip only, no walking at all'.

It's not 'town v country' - the problems are in 'nice places people from all over travel to get to'. Seaside towns as much or more than rural. Many of which have high numbers of elderly residents.

And the problem isn't just incomers spreading disease - some of the rural areas are also quite highly affected per head of population.

I'm not being a NIMBY - I'm not in one of the affected areas. Clearly you aren't either, sarah.

I went for a walk around my small town today . I have done this for years . I usually see no one , and maybe one bus . Admittedly , they were all keeping distance unless they were a couple.
My husband cycles , and he said it was the same on the country roads and at local landmarks . People were parking on verges as it was so busy.
And as for it being Mother's Day we did not visit my Mum as she is self isolating , and we thought MIL was too , BUT SIL went to see her .
Today , loads of people , loads of traffic ..I wish I had spent the whole day in my garden.

sarah have you had hundreds of people flocking to your area? We have. People queuing to get to the top of snowdon, hundreds on the seafront etc. We are not talking about a few more people literally hundreds of extras. People ringing hotels to come to the coast for some sea air etc. This is what is annoying a lot of people I imagine.

@orangeandbananas

@SarahInAccounts have you had people coming onto your land as well then while you wave? That is trespassing regardless of any virus but more scary at times at the moment.

You've become a stereotype.

"Get orf of moi land."

Stop it before you look even more ridiculous,