Worried About Corona Virus- thread 32

[BretonKitten]

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Someone said earlier that no numbers anywhere are totally accurate, as in some countries are waiting until after death (esp if there is a known co-morbidity) before testing and then certifying death as the co-morbidity caused, and then, on Italian news earlier they interviewed some paramedics who are only getting to 23% of people who die before they die- in their homes, so ICU numbers are correct but the "critically ill" figures aren't.
The UK figures look "good" today. Suspiciously so I think.

11539 cases in USA

So.... the over 70s that need to isolate for 12 weeks are different to the 1.5 million who need to be shielded for 12 weeks?

Mikey Smith - 'And there we have it. Boris Johnson just told every idiot cramming into a park that they’re all fine.'

Steven Swinford -'Very good question from Sam Coates who asks Boris Johnson how parents can keep children two metres away from each other in parks - isn't this why Ireland closed parks?'

Boris Johnson says benefits of keeping parks open outweigh value of closing them - BUT that is under review

But the bloody virus' live on surfaces. Ffs

I'm also screaming into the void pp.

Directly comparing death rates against other countries is not helpful as rates change throughout an epidemic.

I am so angry I couldn't type. The virus lives on

Playgrounds in some London boroughs are closing.

Norman Smith - 'Boris Johnson defends keeping parks etc open - "Its veryimportant for people's physical and mental well being that they shd be able to get out." '

Have you ever taken a child to a park?

Has he?

Scotland is up 43 in the last 24 hours. The total cases is 416.

Italy
Diagnosed: 59,138 (+5,560)
Serious in ICU: 3,009 (+152)
Deceased: 5,476 (+651)
Recovered: 7,024 (+952)

sorry @Alladdsup I got sent it via a chat group.

I know it's enormously simplified, but if it helps make things clear to those who have difficulties following the news then great.

US figures are exploding!!!

I’m confused why they are saying figures worse than Italy?

'Currently 12% of ICU beds are occupied by covid patients'

Tom McTague - 'Italy’s case fatality rate is 10 percent, the UK govt adviser says, whereas, she says, Britain’s is officially 4 percent, but is, in reality, closer to 1 percent. Why? '

Jo Coburn -'Deputy Chief Medical Officer says ‘we will have many more deaths......but we should be very cautious about a direct comparison with other countries like Italy’ for eg'

I cannot deal with this man anymore. He has blood on his hands

Alex Wickham -'Boris Johnson signals he will consider restrictions on people's movements if people do not act responsibly.'

norman smith - 'There really is mixed messaging here. PM says going out good for people's health. Sadiq Khan says don't go out. Need clarity......'

Yet boris popularity is surging - will it collapse at some point through.

Sorry, got figures from the gov. site

It's the way he speaks. I can't stand it.

Steven Swinford - 'Boris Johnson suggesting that unless people act responsibly the Government may have to follow the example of other countries and bring in 'restrictions on people's movements altogether'

That goes significantly further than just closing parks - PM talking about lockdown.'

Helena Wilkinson -'Question to PM from @BBCVickiYoung

• courts are still going to be open tomorrow... why is that?

PM: Many courts are already using remote technology to do their business but we’re keeping that under constant review.'