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CFs literally panic buying freezers!

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Stuffandnonsense100 · 21/03/2020 19:42

Found this out today - refrigeration shops are out of freezers due to people buying them to stock up on extra frozen stuff!

This is bananas! Who is doing this crazy shit?!

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Stuffandnonsense100 · 22/03/2020 10:20

@RufustheLanglovingreindeer

Yes! DH and I usually snack so much and eat far more than required. Now we just don’t have any snacks. Tbh it’s going to make everyone a lot healthier. Also planning on actually bothering to use today’s chicken carcass for soup! Not sure why I haven’t always done that actually - amazing what we have taken for granted.

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alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 10:21

I think some shortages were inevitable as we were told to prepare for 2 weeks possible self isolation. So yes I bought more food so we could do that.

alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 10:26

Government has said they are contacting everyone in most vulnerable group to tell them to self isolate and they will have help or guaranteed home delivery slots for food. That is me.
I anticipate major moans on MN from people who think they NEED those slots but can't get them.

Stuffandnonsense100 · 22/03/2020 10:29

@alloutoffucks

Excellent - very pleased for you!!!!

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alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 10:34

Thanks. I knew we would not starve.
If I have delivery slots will do that. And there are people who will help if I really need it.
TBH I could do with losing some weight anyway, so eating a bit less will benefit me.
Just had a lovely hot cross bun from my Sainsbury's delivery yesterday. This thread was making me anxious as I did not order a massive amount from them. Although I think there was a limit on overall items anyway. And have a click and collect booked for a weeks time. By that time I am sure Government will have sorted it for those that need it. I have 2 weeks spare food in. So all that takes me through for 1 month anyway.

PeridotPassion · 22/03/2020 10:38

Don’t stockpile for your own family, trust other people do to the same and everything will be fine for everyone

I don’t trust most people further than I could throw them.

Survival is selfish. It always has and always will be. If my children were starving (I mean actually life/death starving) I’d trample every little old lady out there to make sure my kids ate.

So would most parents. To say otherwise, whilst handy for appearing morally superior, is a downright lie 🤷🏻‍♀️

MrsMGE · 22/03/2020 10:41

So presumably all those who are sitting in bunkers with their two freezers for 3 months do not go out at all (because why put anyone at risk) - I somehow doubt it! Also they do not have any fresh food (therefore potentially compromising their immune systems further) - a very bad idea.

And most importantly, everyone should expect that in 11-12 weeks from now, shops will be entirely empty AGAIN because this lot will come out to empty them. Or wait... Maybe the latter won't happen because there are restrictions in place because of how much they bought already so they simply won't be able to stockpile?! What are they going to do then?

This is not going to end in 3 months time, it's pretty clear.

Going to the shop once a week is NOT over the top and NOT unreasonable, it's a necessity. Unlike stockpiling and buying second freezers now - this is ridiculous, unnecessary and precisely the reason why we're all in trouble now.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 10:55

I just don't get it. What's happened. Why do people in other countries behave like intelligent people and not nearly looting shops...

Deelish75 · 22/03/2020 11:08

Over the last few weeks our weekly shop has gone up.

In normal circumstances I’m the only one who has lunch at home but DP has been working from home for a few weeks now - his work ordered it from early March so he’s been having lunch at home not going to the sandwich shop. I’ve had to buy in extra bread, sandwich filler, salad items, milk, teabags and coffee to feed him. From Monday the DC will be home and not having school dinners so I’m now having to make sure there is enough food to feed them.
There are millions of families up and down the country in this new situation so of course it will have an impact on the supermarkets.

And now restaurant and pubs have shut their doors everyone will be eating every meal at home for the foreseeable.

alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 11:16

@PeridotPassion you might not believe it, but it is true. In every sheer survival situation there are people who have limits about what they will do.
And in real survival situations, everyone is more likely to survive if you work together.
And some even help others. How do you think orphaned children in Belsen survived? Some adults made sure they got some food.

alloutoffucks · 22/03/2020 11:18

Plus if you think selfish behaviour now is not being noted and won't affect people's views of you, you are deluded. There is already one friend in my social circle I am cutting out after all this is over.

Stuffandnonsense100 · 22/03/2020 11:25
  • Survival is selfish. It always has and always will be. If my children were starving (I mean actually life/death starving) I’d trample every little old lady out there to make sure my kids ate.

So would most parents. To say otherwise, whilst handy for appearing morally superior, is a downright lie*

But we are NOT THERE YET!!!! No one needs to be fucking trampling others. My friends in Italy and Austria have basically fully stocked supermarkets because apparently they are not total morons. What you are doing will lead to the need to trample and loot and other actually very scary shit if everyone joins in.

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whatdayisitandotherquestions · 22/03/2020 11:31

Government are handling this as best they can. It’s pretty scary times and the shops and govt are doing their best in fairly unchartered territories. If you have an idea for them then by all means share it!

The just-in-time model doesn't have any built in slack to help when there's a crisis. The government have let supermarkets - or even, encouraged them - put profit over people. In terms of disaster planning, a crisis of some kind was always going to happen at some point.

Just looking at pandemics, for example, it was always a case not of if, but when one happened, and we're lucky it's not a whole lot more deadly, or a virus that targets children. As nightmarishly awful as it is that we're going to be burying thousands of adults in the next few weeks, at least we're not looking over to Italy and seeing them burying their children and knowing that's coming for us next.

So, the idea that there may be stresses on the system in a time of crisis isn't rocket science. It's stating the bleeding obvious. A government that cared about people more than profit would have done something about this in advance. That's what all those civil servants the Tories are so keen on streamlining are there for, to plan for this kind of stuff ahead of time.

Also, beyond shops, the government has had years to get crisis planning right in general terms and months to get it in place for coronavirus. They've let us down, badly, please stop letting them off the hook.

What they should be doing now is giving everyone a basic minimum income for a start. That would prevent people who have little money stockpiling all they have into food as they're worried when they'll next be able to do that.

Then they should force large distribution chains like Amazon to work for the people while the crisis is on. I was on Amazon last night trying to get a thermometer and some food as we're in isolation and running out. I saw thermometers for £60 and single packs of crisps for £17. This should be illegal.

in practical terms, Amazon sellers can install a widget that controls the price of their goods, and when they're scarce it automatically bumps them up to ridiculously expensive. Amazon should be forced to switch this off immediately for a start.

All the supermarkets should take on more staff for online deliveries and find ways to get deliveries to people who don't have internet or can't use online ordering - perhaps telephone orders. Warehouses should be requisitioned for stockpiling goods to allow for a buffer.

Land should be requisitioned for fast growing food and people should be encouraged to grow food at home.

Longer term, the government needs to put a plan in place and legislate the food industry so we're not in such a precarious position.

whatdayisitandotherquestions · 22/03/2020 11:33

My friends in Italy and Austria have basically fully stocked supermarkets because apparently they are not total morons

Or perhaps it's because their supermarkets warehouse food so they have lots of stock and ours don't?

Disclaimer - I have no idea how Italian supermarkets work but I know how ours do, and they we're dependent on 40% of food to be imported.

How much food does Italy import, does anyone know? And do they use just in time ordering the same way ours do, or do their shops have more stock in store? Doe they use supermarkets as much as us or do they use more smaller shops?

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 11:39

It's not just Italy. Britain is the only one where it went as mental as it did and what's worse... It keeps that way! It's people. Not system

whatdayisitandotherquestions · 22/03/2020 12:00

It's people. Not system your actual proof of this?

What do you know about the supermarkets, their systems and people buying habits in other countries? Genuine question as I'd like to know.

Because if you don't know, you're just making it up in your head and spreading rumours based on what you assume to be true.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 12:03

I worked there. Lived there. Worked here. Live here.🤷🏻
I can compare

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 12:06

Our families from abroad are actually worried about us because the behaviour here is being reported even abroad.

whatdayisitandotherquestions · 22/03/2020 12:07

Can compare what? I live here and had no idea the supermarkets operate a just-in-time policy by shopping there as I never see their back end operations. I had to read about it to know that.

Just living in Italy doesn't mean you know anything about the back end operations of supermarkets there or how much food they import. You can't tell by looking, you have to look it up!

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 12:08

I worked in supermarkets in both countries. UK and other EU country (which is now on proper lockdown with mandatory face masks)

whatdayisitandotherquestions · 22/03/2020 12:09

Our families from abroad are actually worried about us because the behaviour here is being reported even abroad

Yes, because our media are hyping it, which makes it more likely to happen.

Stop and think for a minute. What do you want? Do you want to live in a country that has robust crisis planning for crisis or do you just want to have a go at people and encourage panic?

I want the first. And that means putting pressure on our government to do something about it, not finger pointing at others.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 12:11

This has no point. You will blame media and system (even though media reporting about coronavirus is same in the other country too), I will stick by my "it's people". We will just end up saying something angry etc.
Let's just agree to disagree.

IndecentFeminist · 22/03/2020 12:14

Overseas many countries only allow a few people in at a time as they are far more strict than us. A different kettle of fish.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 22/03/2020 12:18

Well they didn't from the absolute start, did they. That's implemented after lock downs.

It's feels absolutely surreal when I realise that our families are on lockdown so going out only for absolutely essential reasons, can't go outside without masks and have to keep 2m away, and yet here, it's just... Quite business as usual? Ifyswim. No masks, full supermarkets, parks full of groups of people. It's just... Really weird feeling.

whatdayisitandotherquestions · 22/03/2020 12:19

You will blame media and system

It's not about blame. It's about looking at who has the power to make change and putting pressure on them to make change.

Perhaps you haven't done much political campaigning before? Our elected officials represent us and if we put enough pressure on them we can affect policy. Also, the media operate under guidelines as what they do affects people. It's perfectly reasonable to expect responsible reporting in a crisis.

I'm not looking to blame someone. I'm trying to find actual, workable solutions.

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