Worried about Coronavirus - thread 31

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Thank you for replying @Number12. On one basis bad idea as already feeling emotional but on the other I really need some sleep .

I think global flights will mostly cease permently - only a few people will travel. The era of tourism is dead forever.

South Africa will fall apart

FFS can people please stop with this kind of unfounded, dramatic scare mongering

It's just dreadful.
Feels like it's never going to end but it's only just started!

have the numbers been announced, I noticed Worldometer has been updated but think that may be Scotland and Wales figures only

I disagree, I think tourism will be back strongly after this virus has died out. Even if it becomes a seasonal virus and there's an annual jab. People will begin travelling again.

It's only Wales and NI so far

Jackie Ashley - 'Parks have become the new pubs. I have never seen our local parks and Hampstead Heath so busy. And no, people are not social distancing.'

Antonello Guerrera - '546 DEAD. In one day. Just in #Lombardy
(yesterday it was 380) And 3,251 more infected.
I am definitely lost for words.'

BNO Newsroom - 'BREAKING: Italy reports 6,557 new cases of coronavirus and 793 new deaths, raising total to 53,578 cases and 4,825 dead.'

How come the Italian lockdown measurement haven't had any effect yet?

How come the mortality rate in Italy is so huge???

Bit of a minor point, but can people please stop talking about Africa as though it is one country? It's 54 different countries, who will all have different levels of preparedness for COVID-19, and also may have very different climates that may affect the virus differently.

I do agree that in some countries, the affect of the virus could be devastating- but equally countries that have coped with Ebola may actually be more prepared to face this than European countries in some ways.

Oh Italy. I can't comprehend it. All those people.

Only been in place for 14 days in lombady and other hotsports - few more days for rest of country. - 50% of new cases are in lombardy but 70-80% of todays deaths are.

Sorry, SansaSnark, of course you're right, Africa is very diverse.

Allie Hodgkins-Brown - 'Brace yourself, via @hannahcapella the latest Italian figures are not good: 4825 people have died, up 793 over the past 24 hrs; 42,681 currently infected, up 4821; 6072 people cured, an increase of 943 TOTAL - 53578 cases of the virus in Italy, an increase of 6557.'

@screamer1 Bearing in mind the potential 2 week wait for symptoms, many of the current cases may have been contracted before full lockdown measures were brought in. I hope from next week we will see the affect of social distancing and lockdown measures more.

How come the Italian lockdown measurement haven't had any effect yet?

• long incubation time & long time of illness before death

italy lockdown started on 9 march, that's only 2 weeks away. with up to 3 weeks of incubation the numbers will possibly rise for a couple of weeks before reducing.

Jeremy Cliffe - 'Just horrific. Deaths soaring in Lombardy, which has been on lockdown for two weeks now. My relatives in Milan say food + meds supplies still OK, but concerns about how long supermarkets can keep cashiers at work.'

Why does Boris never work weekends!?

What a bloody stupid comment. Like him or loathe him, his feet won't be touching the ground at the moment. At least have some respect for that!

793 deaths in 24 hours - my god.

Jeremy Cliffe - 'Meanwhile death rates in Italy as a whole are approaching 1,000 (think of it as 3-4 plane crashes) a day.'

@sansashark & @CrunchyCarrot agree

It is the most surreal situation in the UK knowing that what Italy is enduring is coming to us in just days (It's already started). What's worse is Italy started off with a far superior national health service to us.

I can't see how global tourism will return for 2 years at least and that's assuming a vaccine.

Thinking about what's to come in Africa is grim.

Because Italy is moving towards both peak contagion and therefore peak deaths, which will come after peak contagion.

I spent a long time this morning (getting fed up of the "but Italians all live in mixed generation households" trope...and guess what- 1.2 % of Italian households at the last census were multi generational. In the UK The Guardian says 1.9 million households are multi-generational. So, slight population variable aside, it's more or less the same number.

I imagine the components will be different though. The Italian families are probably nuclear families who move Gran in when Grandad dies, or less well off families who live in better off Gran's house with her. I imagine that in the UK it's more likely to be single parents with children living with their parents, given the lack of opportunity for them to do otherwise and the high teen pregnancy rate (though I think that is coming down from figures about 15 years ago)

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