Lockdown conditions in France

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Ive seen lots of threads with people worrying about lockdown.and how they would cope/ it would be enforced.

Last night, following the President's announcement I received a text message from the government confirming the lockdown for 15 days and linking to a site with details.

From 12 today we are only allowed out to go to work if work from home isnt possible, buy groceries, see a doctor, help elderly/vulnerable family in need (with reminder about barrier actions), to let a dog do its business or for individual physical activity close to home.

Each time you need a paper dated and signed explaining why you are out. Infringements are fined 38-135 euros. The paper can be downloaded and printed, shown on your phone or just hand written.

100 000 police and army personnel are being deployed to enforce the conditions.

No mention of how children can exercise. Just that parks etc are closed and there should be no family or friends gathering.

We are going to test going out early for run with 1 DC each and hope that is allowed in "individual activity". If its not I ll stand on the doorstep and watch them run up and down the road (2 highly active boys living in a flat....)

Totally personal and every family is different but my 2 would find it more distressing to go back to school in September, with a new teacher, than to go back odd days now. Both really struggle with school (for different reasons) and the idea of 6 months with no school then back in for a new year is awful.

Ah it seems they have confirmed the quarantine does not concern EU, Schengen and UK. Franceinfo says: la France n'imposera pas de quarantaine pour "toute personne en provenance de l'UE, de l'espace Schengen ou du Royaume-Uni.

Well that changes everything. My guess is that they can't impose it within eu/schengen without changing the law.

Ouff!

Similar with our holiday rental @Frenchfancy
Three bookers wanted to book for July & August, we are fully booked for this year, our house managers are still in lockdown till mid month and no official word from our department wether we will be open. When we will be able to travel to our Maisonette Secondaire Is anyone’s guess.

No offence but Parisians seem to think they’re exempt from rules. Rude to a point if we refuse their booking will leave a bad review.

We are not taking booking this year. Refunded all deposits paid, most all have understood.

#Maison

It’s not the odd days that teachers are worried will be distressing, it’s the circumstances in school. The enforced social distancing, not being able to run in the playground, being forced into a mask and sent home immediately if they cough, or being scared because another child coughs and is put into a mask and excluded immediately. Social distancing in the cantine. Not being allowed to touch anything another child has touched... and on and on. We have no idea which rules we’re going to be able to do away with and which ones will be rigorously enforced.

It’s going to be a very strange situation for them. Some children will be fine, some are going to find it distressing.

I would assume that children have been taught about the gestes Barrieres anyway? Mine know. They know to keep their distance, have seen 95% of people around them wearing masks, they wash their hands even more than normal and always always cough into their elbows now etc.

We've had many age appropriate discussions about the pandemic. I agree PS and MS are too little. But the primary age and up should know this stuff.

I agree it will be a strange situation but coming off the back of 8 weeks of lockdown - the children know its not BAU

My MS knows there's a virus and we have to be careful not to spread it, as it can be dangerous to people's grandmas and grandpas. My DC have been very matter of fact about it, and don't seem stressed or concerned.

My daughter knows more than me 😊 she is 14, her best friends Dad nearly died because of coronvirus so she is very careful but does want to go back to school.

My three-year-old in PS knows to wash her hands and sneeze into her elbow.

Today I heard of 2 schools (primary) in the académie that are staying shut until September because they cannot follow any of the requirements. A friend who is a PE in Marseille says the mairie there insists they can open, but no one thinks they will be able to even ensure hand washing, because of a lack of facilities.

Our school has notified us that they will definitely not open before 18th, and this is a moving target as well. Sigh. I really hate homeschooling.

316 maires (so far) are refusing to open schools

Interesting news about the patient zero coming out of Bobigny, pushing the date back to before Christmas.

Yes, it is. Makes me wonder about that horrendous flu I had at the end of January...

It does make you wonder. On the other hand, DH's aunt is in an ehpad in the Grand Est with several covid symptoms. She's been tested and is negative...

I'm fed up of home schooling. My 2 do NOT like it. And trying to get my own work done is a nightmare. DH is holed up in a bedroom all day rarely surfacing.

The tests have a 30% false negative rate.

Our maire has said the protocol for schools is impossible to apply and they are opening one trial primary school and one maternelle with only GS, to see whether they can even begin to comply with it. If the results are encouraging, they'll open others on the 18h and 25th.
I doubt they will be - his point is to show the protocol is not workable.

Thread is nearly full - here's a link to the 2nd one

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3900057-France-lockdown-2-vers-un-deconfinement?watched=1

Hopefully the situation will keep improving!

Still no word from our school but as the maires are complaining about opening schools I'm not convinced ours will open.

I'd just like to say thank you for such an interesting & informative thread. .

I am living in the UK but my DC & GC are in France & this thread has really helped me keep abreast of what is going on. Mumsnet at its best.

And am longing for the borders to be open again.................

Please can someone help me on this. I'm not sure if it's reasonable or not.

DD1 is desperate to see bf. Boyfriends mother has offered to pick up, have her to stay for 2 nights and bring her back (all after 11th). They've been self isolating strictly like us.

DD2 is desperate to see BFF. Can't reasonably say no to DD2 if I say yes to DD1. All families have been isolating.

Thoughts please. We have DSC every other week so there's already that. And their Mum is now back at work part time.

DH will be going to his huge work site for a couple of 1/2 days next week to pick up more stuff for home working, but the site will still be closed down.

I slightly feel that one way or another next week the cat is out of the bag.

So is ok to say yes to DDs? DH is not ok on anyone coming here. And it's a battle I cannot be arsed to fight.

Thanks

@Wallywobbles that sounds fine to me. We will be having DD3s friends over on Monday and Dd1 (20) is desperate to see her bf and as they are both working on Monday they will be seeing each other on Sunday. 8 weeks is a long time at that age