Lockdown conditions in France

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Ive seen lots of threads with people worrying about lockdown.and how they would cope/ it would be enforced.

Last night, following the President's announcement I received a text message from the government confirming the lockdown for 15 days and linking to a site with details.

From 12 today we are only allowed out to go to work if work from home isnt possible, buy groceries, see a doctor, help elderly/vulnerable family in need (with reminder about barrier actions), to let a dog do its business or for individual physical activity close to home.

Each time you need a paper dated and signed explaining why you are out. Infringements are fined 38-135 euros. The paper can be downloaded and printed, shown on your phone or just hand written.

100 000 police and army personnel are being deployed to enforce the conditions.

No mention of how children can exercise. Just that parks etc are closed and there should be no family or friends gathering.

We are going to test going out early for run with 1 DC each and hope that is allowed in "individual activity". If its not I ll stand on the doorstep and watch them run up and down the road (2 highly active boys living in a flat....)

Probably won't be the only moonlight flit...
I think there's a good chance we'll be back in lockdown quite soon after 11th May because a lot of people will want to bend the rules as the weather gets really nice.

Looking at the amount of relative freedom they’re going to give people from the 11th I do think there’s a real chance they’ll have to slam the breaks on a couple of weeks later. Given that the Germans have already had their infection rate rise again to exponential growth levels, after one week out of lockdown.

All the long weekends we will lose in May..in a normal year, we would have been travelling somewhere on all of them.

Which is exactly what the government want to stop - too risky at the moment.

Given that the Germans have already had their infection rate rise again to exponential growth levels

they have? This page does not seem to show it?
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/

Im afraid of severe boredom this summer for my boys. 9 weeks school holidays. No centre loisir (IMO). Maybe no parks? Maybe no theme parks or museums or swimming pools. Maybe no going on holiday...

Really penalising those in urban areas. And of course those in rural areas who rely on tourism.

We had temps of 39° last June and facing that without access to the municipal pool is grim. Though maybe the ozone levels won't be so bad...

yes I haven't heard anything about the local summer program either. Last year they had dance camp, pony riding, basketball etc. And of course a trip to the seaside plus a couple of weeks with grandparents.

We d planned a week in Italy (cough), 1 week here with visiting GPs, 3 weeks in the UK without us (yay!), 3 weeks on the coast then the last 2 weeks would be maybe a sports camp or centre loisir and maybe other GP and/or our nanny....

We d coordinated 4 families plans to get all those dates fixed. Best laid plans eh?!

Katharina Germany is reporting that the r0 has risen to 1 again, after being at 0,7 in mid April, but could be between 0,9 and 1,1 according to their virologists. It was reported in French media sources yesterday, and the BBC, but I read it on a direct update feed on LCI, which I can’t now fine.

today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1508888.html

www.boursorama.com/bourse/actualites/coronavirus-le-taux-de-contagion-en-hausse-en-allemagne-92bbb49386b28c91ce3c5b419a0e0c1b

Edouard Philippe referred to Germany's worrying increasing R1 number since it relaxed measures in his speech yesterday when he talked about the need to carry out the de-confinement gradually.

Still not a word from our school. You would think they would at least ask how many parents are planning to send their DC back, surely that would help with planning?

In other news, Swiss are saying you can send DC to grandparents, no risk, children don't transmit the virus. If that's true then all the school closures were for pretty much nothing. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52470838

I had an email from DS's collège Directrice this morning. There will be 15 pupils per class but they can't say anything else as they still haven't received official instructions from the academie or the diocese for the sanitary requirements that will have to be put in place. When they do they will be able to decide if it will be possible to open or not.

But then this out of Germany was shared on another thread today:

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/30/coronavirus-scientists-caution-against-reopening-schools

Guardian article: Coronavirus scientists caution against reopening schools

Study finds children may be as infectious as adults – but Unicef warns closures put vulnerable pupils at risk

Scientists have cautioned against the reopening of schools after new findings suggested children could be as infectious as adults.

The study, from the team of leading German virologist Christian Drosten, found that even though children tend to have far milder symptoms, those infected appear to have the same levels of circulating virus in their body as adults. This suggests schools and nurseries could act as hubs of Covid-19 transmission if current restrictions were lifted....

So I think no one has a clue.

There's so much conflicting information. - vaccine will be avaliable by October, say Swiss scientists.

• no vaccine for at least 18 months, say others
• vaccine available in September, say Oxford scientist.
• no vaccine for at least 2 years, say someone else..

and so on.

Just had an email from our school saying classes will be limited to 15 pupils, with social distancing rules, and each child will only attend school two days (will they provide materials to home school on the other days? I have no idea). They are asking us to confirm if we will be sending our kids in . I hope they allocate DC1 and DC2 to the same two days otherwise I'll just be driving up and down all day long!

Yes hopefully they will consider siblings. But not sure, in our maternelle the classes are small and they might just take the entire PS one day and MS next - of course children have siblings in different years in primary.
CP where DC1 is has 24 children I think.

I've not posted on this thread before but been following.

I've had surveys from school for my two (GS and CE2) today.

Both schools (on a shared site) asking if we are planning on going back on the 12th May, and if it is a problem if there is no canteen or ALAE before and after school and if it is possible to do a half day.

The maternelle has warned that they can only take 10 children per class to maintain spacing requirements. There are 32 in the class normally.

I'm expecting that I will be backwards and forwards to school and not expecting my two to be in school at the same time!

Ive just received a questionnaire too. Asking what date we would send DC back depending on different scenarios they suggest. Earliest date is 14th May.

And one question is would you still send them back if a sibling isn't there on the same day. Although in my mind to reduce contact they should receive siblings at the same time if possible.

Also asking about lunch vs home vs packed lunch (if only packed lunch were an option in normal times!!! Would save a lot of tears iver a hated canteen!).

Our Montessori has emailed today to say those that want to go back can do so from May 11th. It'll only be 4 mornings a week, which is odd as DH tells me the government doesn't want mornings only - they'd rather week on/week off.

Still, DS will be going back. The poor thing is going mad without any company his own age (3) and DH has to go back to work that day. I'm having a tough pregnancy, 6 months gone and struggling so while it does feel a bit soon I could really use those mornings to prepare for DS2's arrival and get some rest. Just praying that we don't get a second wave.

We've been sent a survey to know if we want DD to go in for the week 11th to 15th (if yes, does she need to eat at the canteen?). We've said we won't be sending her in. DS is in Lycée pro, so very unlikely to be going back. He'll have to look after her if DH and I have to go in on the same days (I only teach 4emes, so not concerned with the first wave).

For each option we had to choose 14th May, 25th May or September.

Possibilities are 1 x 0.5 days a week, 2 x 0.5 days a week, 1 day a week, 2 days a week, 1 week out of 2, 1 week out of 3.

We've said 14th May for every option 😃 although if its 0.5 days a week we might not send them in June if the 100km limit is lifted...we'd like to see the sea!

A friend who is a nurse working in a hospital thinks its ridiculous opening schools in Paris with so maný cases...

God, mornings only would do me at this stage. Dd is the same, @mamansnet, 4-years-old and an only and we live rurally. She has barely even seen another child since the 15th of March. We're in a green zone, so I'm hopeful.

Fingers crossed that all goes ok for your DS and that you get to relax a bit.

1x0.5 days? That's basically nothing, what would be the point.

@FancyPants20 I admit, I did bite their hands off!🙈 It does feel a bit reckless to be sending him back so soon but physically, I really can't do this on my own right now. Only wish I could.

Thinking of inviting a school friend over in the afternoons which will give him some company and take some pressure off me as well. He'll have already seen them in school so don't see any extra risk. Also hoping that the parks/woods might reopen so we can have a walk in a nice open/green space rather than local pavements for a change!

I agree that half a day a week is rubbish but at least itd be a change of scenery. I suspect quite a few people who went to their second homes won't come back. School has said they will continue setting work to do at home as they do today and at school will just be revision.

Hopefully if a lot of families don't come back then my DC can do more time at school. Although one mum wanted to leave her DC at the holiday home and come back to Paris alone and the 9 and 11 year olds refused - they are desperate to go back to school! (The 5 year old is happy to stay)