Lockdown conditions in France

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Ive seen lots of threads with people worrying about lockdown.and how they would cope/ it would be enforced.

Last night, following the President's announcement I received a text message from the government confirming the lockdown for 15 days and linking to a site with details.

From 12 today we are only allowed out to go to work if work from home isnt possible, buy groceries, see a doctor, help elderly/vulnerable family in need (with reminder about barrier actions), to let a dog do its business or for individual physical activity close to home.

Each time you need a paper dated and signed explaining why you are out. Infringements are fined 38-135 euros. The paper can be downloaded and printed, shown on your phone or just hand written.

100 000 police and army personnel are being deployed to enforce the conditions.

No mention of how children can exercise. Just that parks etc are closed and there should be no family or friends gathering.

We are going to test going out early for run with 1 DC each and hope that is allowed in "individual activity". If its not I ll stand on the doorstep and watch them run up and down the road (2 highly active boys living in a flat....)

Congratulations mamansnet

When I was having my second, the doc goes: So,do you want to know the sex?
Me - yes, sure, why not.
Him - any preference?
Me (DC1 is a boy) Oh no, not really..
Him - it's a girl
Me - IT'S A GIRL!!!!!!!!!
Guess I did have a preference after all

now saying that, DD can be a royal pain in the arse and is testing my nerves and patience in a way DS never did..

Thank you @mamansnet and congratulations on your little girl! We're also having a girl - my gynaecologist scanned me at my last appointment and told me. I have my T2 scan on the 29th. Bit sad that DH is missing all the scans, but if that's the worse thing that happens, I'll definitely take that!

Thanks!! I was convinced it was a girl but still pleased to have it confirmed, my siblings and cousins have all had only boys so we needed a girl in the family. I'm 22 weeks gone, it's going to take us another 20 to find a name we agree on

Oh and @KatharinaRosalie there is no way that any future child can get on my proverbials as much as DS is doing right now. Surely not.

@mamansnet

I’m on the Swiss side in Canton de Vaud.

Definitely cannot get across our local border for shopping yet, unfortunately. Our neighbour was turned back the other day. I tell you, on May 11th, the local Carrefour will be jam-packed with people from the Swiss side!!

Luxembourg
They opened Macdonalds drive through in four locations on Thursday. I suppose that is OK for social distancing as you are in a car and the workers are segregated inside.
HOWEVER
The police had to intervene as the line were sooooo long they stretched back so far that the buses and Lorrys could not get through.

Parents have raised a generation of fast food lovers!

Amateur Video here
today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1502983.html

Flocon if they open the borders - will be decided at the end of month.
The controls have relaxed as well, I went to Switzerland yesterday and on the way back, the French were just waiving French cars through without any checks. Swiss still want to inspect the work permit though, so it will be quite a challenge for all the frontaliers to go to work, the crossing will take for ever.

The controls have relaxed as well, I went to Switzerland yesterday and on the way back, the French were just waiving French cars through without any checks.

I heard from a colleague (frontier worker) who crosses the Swiss/French border (not sure exactly where )that there were no checks on a day he went through into France about two weeks back, then three days later everybody was getting the full check. Maybe there's a randomness or if there is a relaxation it's only a local one - any thoughts?

I do know the controls/international attestation requirements were still fully in force on at least one flight into France yesterday (another Frontier account), so I don't think there has been an official nationwide relaxation on all border checks.

I'm living in Pays de Gex and we were out this morning. There were so many Swiss cars in Carrefour in Sergy @FloconDeNeige, maybe they're getting through at the smaller crossing at Ferney?

no not official relaxation, the guards are more relaxed.
They did have signs everywhere that going to France for shopping is forbidden, so those Swiss people are quite brave to risk it.

Oh really @KatharinaRosalie? Obviously I haven't been on the Swiss side since last month and we were wondering what reason they would give for crossing at the Douane

@LongPauseNoReply

Not sure as our douane here is tiny (La Cure) and they aren’t letting anyone pass through to go shopping!

Is anyone else in France insured with the MAIF?

They've just emailed me to confirm that, as they had indicated, they are using the money they're saving because of the drop in road traffic accidents since lockdown either to refund clients a proportion of their contributions or to donate to a fund for HCP / the Institut Pasteur for research / the Secours Populaire.

How nice @AuldAlliance We've got Swiss health insurance through DHs NGO job. I can't imagine them offering anything like that

I just realised you meant car insurance 🤦🏼‍♀️

Yes, sorry.
I should have said that... car insurance. Can't think health insurance companies are feeling very flush at the moment.

Oh that's nice to know Auld, we're with the MAIF as well. Assureurs solidaires indeed :-)

ah no it's militants isn't it. Brain has turned to mush.

Both, Burney...

Health insurers arent feeling great. Non urgent procedures have gone down obviously but they'll surge again when this is over. Hardly any new business.

In France, any business folding has an impact on insurers who act as mutuels - a smaller workforce = fewer premiums.

I used to have a skybox - still do in the Gites with free view.

Registered at my parents in the UK.

They'll be someone local who can do it all for you. Not now obviously.

3 weeks to go..

Counting every hour @KatharinaRosalie

It’s hard going, isn’t it?

Children playing out back of our apartment have abandoned any pretence at social distancing: they are just playing. And their parents are no longer supervising them. Out front, in the stade, there were groups of 2-5 young men playing football together or most of the day they jumped the fence, and no one shouted at them or stopped them as they would have done a couple of weeks ago. When I went shopping, there were groups sitting on the benches, chatting. Hardly anyone swerved to avoid me on the street.
I wonder if there will be a clamp down in “the rules”. It seems like people have had enough. And loads of cars around.

Here too.

We're avoiding the news until they have concrete info (next week?). But the rumours are still reaching us like only teachers starting on 11th May, not children...