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Lockdown conditions in France

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CroissantsAtDawn · 17/03/2020 06:01

Ive seen lots of threads with people worrying about lockdown.and how they would cope/ it would be enforced.

Last night, following the President's announcement I received a text message from the government confirming the lockdown for 15 days and linking to a site with details.

From 12 today we are only allowed out to go to work if work from home isnt possible, buy groceries, see a doctor, help elderly/vulnerable family in need (with reminder about barrier actions), to let a dog do its business or for individual physical activity close to home.

Each time you need a paper dated and signed explaining why you are out. Infringements are fined 38-135 euros. The paper can be downloaded and printed, shown on your phone or just hand written.

100 000 police and army personnel are being deployed to enforce the conditions.

No mention of how children can exercise. Just that parks etc are closed and there should be no family or friends gathering.

We are going to test going out early for run with 1 DC each and hope that is allowed in "individual activity". If its not I ll stand on the doorstep and watch them run up and down the road (2 highly active boys living in a flat....)

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KatharinaRosalie · 13/04/2020 19:59

they could relax the 1KM limit a bit. I already know every tree and stone in that area..

KatharinaRosalie · 13/04/2020 20:01

Burney I have MS and CP and we are both working full time with DH. Madhouse.

Roseau18 · 13/04/2020 20:04

BurneyFanny, what I really meant was that I am missing the contact with students - I don't have young children at home so have been putting my classes on line but they are not designed to be on-line and it's taking far more time than teaching them would.

Although given that most of our teaching finishes at the end of this week, I had already written off teaching again this year. I'm not sure what will happen for the resits.

Also, I would like them just to open the building so that I can get into my office and pick up some things.

AuldAlliance · 13/04/2020 20:14

We have no semester 2 grades, so resits are a secondary issue...that we presume will be scheduled for late August, at least for semester 1 exams. No idea how semester 2 will be assessed.

Roseau18 · 13/04/2020 20:19

We have had had to do semester 2 grades online (which has been challenging to say the least!)

AuldAlliance · 13/04/2020 20:26

I've set (ungraded) translation work online each week since lockdown and students have been running it through DeepL, so I have said it is not possible to do online translation exams. Not sure what is happening now, we're still waiting for the head of our university to provide guidelines that will then have to be adapted to our UFR and voted in...

Makiwa · 13/04/2020 20:33

DD2 (9) was parked on the sofa at exactly 8.02pm ready to find out when there would be a likelihood of school going back. She is 11 years younger than her nearest sibling so desperate to see her friends. Relieved now to have a date to look forward to.

BriocheBriocheBrioche · 13/04/2020 21:56

4 more weeks, not really sure how I feel about it... glad he didn’t just say another 15 days though. At least an end is in site and there is some kind of plan in place.

I just can’t wait to walk further than this 1km bubble! I live in a built up residential area and I miss my walks in the forest and down to the sea!

@mamansnet I’ll happily discuss events with you. I adore my job and am devastated that I’m basically done for the year. A few weeks ago I was looking for an office space and an Intern and now... fingers crossed 2021 is better.

CoteDAzur · 14/04/2020 07:55

Is anyone else worried about catching the coronavirus once DC go back to school? Children don't normally suffer complications and bounce back quickly but parents can easily catch it from them. And then what?

Gfplux · 14/04/2020 08:15

“A gradually return to some sort of normal after May 11th”

Let us all remember that four weeks is a lifetime in a crisis.
It could change.

However we all needed a target to aim for. Fingers crossed.

BurneyFanny · 14/04/2020 08:36

Is anyone else worried about catching the coronavirus once DC go back to school?

not especially, I think we've both had it. DH is wondering whether the kids will have to wear masks. I can't imagine trying to get a class of 24 3 year olds to keep masks on. Hell, I can't even persuade one not to wear a Frozen dress for three weeks on the trot.

Gfplux · 14/04/2020 08:38

www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irishwoman-on-how-covid-19-is-affecting-luxembourg-1.4225507

The above is an article published in Ireland about a family who live in Luxembourg and how the restrictions are effecting them. I agree with everything she has to say.
A small quote
”I grew up in Dublin and moved to Luxembourg with my husband, Keith, 20 years ago. We both work in the financial sector and initially planned to stay a couple of years, but quickly found that the country offered a work and life balance that we couldn’t achieve in Dublin at that time. We made friends quickly, the healthcare and social security system were excellent, and then came the opportunity for our two children to speak many languages (Luxembourgish, German, French and English) and embrace a mix of cultures. I’ve found it to be an egalitarian and socially conscious society.”

I am sure those on this thread living in a country far from home will find it interesting.

CroissantsAtDawn · 14/04/2020 09:22

I was just saying that I don't think they can make younger children wear masks - they'd just fiddle with them all the time making them more dangerous. A lot would get chewed too!

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LaChatte · 14/04/2020 09:28

I will NOT being going back to work (collège teacher) if there aren't proper measures put in place. We need tests, if I've had it and have immunity then I'll go back willingly, if I'm not immune then no way am I putting myself at risk. I also cant imagine maternelle kids wearing masks and respecting hygiene rules.

CroissantsAtDawn · 14/04/2020 09:29

I'm not afraid of the DC getting it because Ive had it (diagnosed by Dr. but not tested though Ive no doubt given the symptoms) and the DC and DH had very slight symptoms.

I have no idea how or when they'll go back to school. I wouldn't be surprised if they do half days or alternate days so there's only ever half the class in (mine are in maternelle and primaire so its doable).

I'll still be WFH I think and will probably spend my days trecking back and forth to school...

Can't see sports clubs opening though which is a huge disappointment for the DC, one of whom competes.

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BurneyFanny · 14/04/2020 09:34

I presume they're using this month to consult with unions, rectorats etc. to put a plan in place.

BurneyFanny · 14/04/2020 09:37

I have to say, living in an area of high deprivation, the school issue is SO important and the one thing I think Macron is getting right. My son's school is in a REP+ area and he only has 12 kids in his CP class. It has made such a difference. School is such a lifeline for the kids round here with parents who are illegal immigrants with little to no literacy in French, living in squats etc.

KatharinaRosalie · 14/04/2020 09:39

half days or alternate ones would be an issue if all parents are expected to go back to work though.

KatharinaRosalie · 14/04/2020 09:45

I'm not massively worried about getting it. Yes I of course know it can be dangerous for youngish healthy people, but our odds are still not too scary. I'm not sure when DC will get to see their grandparents though.

CroissantsAtDawn · 14/04/2020 09:46

True about half days. And we cant kick start the economy unless people go back to work.

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CroissantsAtDawn · 14/04/2020 09:47

I have no idea how the school holidays will work. So many people depend on grandparents for holidays

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KatharinaRosalie · 14/04/2020 09:51

there was a study that found school closures do not have much of an effect anyway www.theguardian.com/education/2020/apr/06/school-closures-have-little-impact-on-spread-of-coronavirus-study

And yes, most of the people in our village use grandparents for childcare, pick ups and holidays.

mamansnet · 14/04/2020 09:51

I know it's not very responsible of me, but I really hope they go back on May 11th even if it's just part time. I've been on arrêt de travail for 2 months of this year already as this pregnancy is so exhausting. I was just about managing with DS (3) being in school from 8 until 4, but I would have never survived lockdown without DH being home. He said last night that he probably wouldn't have coped alone either, which was reassuring!

I feel like a bad mother but sometimes I just don't have the energy to take DS out for his daily walk or do the work that his teachers have set. We tend to do our own thing, like jigsaws, learning colours/counting and baking cakes (all still educational at his age!). And I suppose CBeebies is good for his bilingualism Smile

mamansnet · 14/04/2020 09:53

And he desperately needs some company of his own age. It breaks my heart to see him wanting to play with the kids we pass on the street and he's not allowed anywhere near them.

Roseau18 · 14/04/2020 10:10

I've just seen that Blanquer has said this morning the return will be progressive, possibly part time and possibly not for all pupils.

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