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Worries about the Coronavirus 29

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gnomeisland · 16/03/2020 22:00

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middleager · 17/03/2020 16:16

I can't seem to find a full checjlist of symptoms for CV on the NHS website, I can only find coughing and temperature.

My son, who is rarely ill, came home vomiting today. Can this be a symptom?

independent98 · 17/03/2020 16:18

Was due to start new job this week but have just been told that start date could be 3 months away due to coronavirus. Its a small business and two out of four staff has tested positive. I left my last job last Friday...v.scared atm as i am a single mum

buttermilkwaffles · 17/03/2020 16:19

There is some Italian data here that suggests that the number of asymptomatic carriers may be even higher though:
mobile.twitter.com/andreamatranga/status/1239774862572277760

WhoWants2Know · 17/03/2020 16:21

Middleager- Yes, vomiting can be a symptom, but it's less common than the respiratory symptoms.

RedToothBrush · 17/03/2020 16:24

Laurie Garrett @laurie_garrett
Window's closing for Americans

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The window of opportunity for most Americans to decide where they want to be located, and with whom, to ride out the Great Pandemic is closing.

For those living in key cities along the Pacific & Atlantic coasts, that window may close before Friday. Elsewhere in the country it will be a rolling thunder, as cities and towns shut down to stop spread of the virus.

When I say your window of opportunity is closing, here is what I mean:

1.)Most major transit hubs will soon close entirely including airports, trains & long distance buses. This may begin along the Eastern Seaboard, WA & CA, but it will become a national phenomenon before April 1.

2.)Some suburban and peri-urban areas will likely close off major roadways that extend their communities to the nearest metropolis, hoping to limit spread of the virus from the urban center. This will limit movement in and out of those areas.

3.)Gasoline will become harder to find within a few days, further limiting auto transport.

What is it that you need to decide?

If you own or rent a single residence, and have no family members that require your special attention, there is no decision to make: Stay home, hunker down.

If you have young adult children coming home from college or seeking financial safety – a place for food and board amid job layoffs in the epidemic – you may not only need to stay put, but to find ways to accommodate a larger household.

If you are currently earning a living in the gig economy, as a contract-worker, in construction, or on the blue collar side of a white collar industry the option of “working from home” may not be open to you, and 6 or 8 weeks w/out a daily income stream could prove excruciating.

This may be time to relocate to stay w/friends or relatives in a less expensive location until the epidemic is over.

If you have elderly parents or grandparents that need assisted living or close attn, you may now wish to either relocate to stay near them, or bring them to your home until the epidemic passes.

If you live in a compact urban apartment or small house but are fortunate enough to own a second home “in the country” or “by the beach” you may wish to relocate for the duration.

Every American has tough decisions to make, & a very short time window in which to mull them over and take action.

Choose wisely. Do not delay.

I just said goodbye to neighbors that are forsaking NYC for a cabin upstate for the duration. We couldn't hug, and looked at each other sadly. I'll see them again when #COVID19 dissipates and "normal" returns.

Prepare, America. Don't delay.

Certain elements of this have happened already in UK (with regards to travel to Europe) and I think will happen on a national level too. Particularly with London.

It's not practical for most people to move tbh but some will and they will spread the disease in doing so.

But the most interesting thing about the thread is thinking about just how precarious things for so many people internationally and how much is going to change not just for a few weeks but forever.

buttermilkwaffles · 17/03/2020 16:25

@middleager

In a very small number of cases (5%) it has been reported as a symptom. I would guess that would be in addition to some of the other more common symptoms though, not on it's own.
Source: mobile.twitter.com/dtwyman/status/1238042960140402690

Worries about the Coronavirus 29
Calmonthesurfacebut · 17/03/2020 16:26

I delivered a box of tinned food etc., to my great Aunt today, only for her to tell me she 'popped out' to Morrisons yesterday! I wouldn't go in and stayed at reception - she is in a private complex with shared lounge and laundry etc., and they have quite good security and sign in/out, which I was pleased about.

Later she rang me to say, she was disappointed I didn't go in for a cup of tea as" I wouldn't have caught anything from her!" She then said 'well I don't mind if I get it, I have a good innings and it wouldn't bother me if I went now anyway'. Maybe that's why the older ones aren't worrying.

DD came home to say lots of children were sent home coughing, some looked quite poorly, I'm not sending her in tomorrow. Also my tickly throat has returned and I've coughed several times today. I feel a little spaced out, no temp. I think it may just be a normal cold, but going to get DH to bring his files he needs home from work and hunker down.

Jeremy Hunt is doing a better job today than I've ever seen, do you think he's on here?

Babyfairy0923 · 17/03/2020 16:27

Jeremy Hunt is excellent

Coquohvan · 17/03/2020 16:29

Trying to get my head around China’s numbers.
Population of 1.3 billion yet cases are 80 thousand
Understand they have armies of HCP but still!

defthand · 17/03/2020 16:29

@buttermilkwaffles

Very interesting. And worrying because he claims that those asymptomatic carriers are doing the bulk of the spreading. Kind of invalidates our current policies of self-isolating the symptomatic!

Ultimately the Chinese only squashed their outbreak (possibly temporarily) when they isolated all the contacts as well. Korea is flung this too, I think? I feel like that’s beyond us.

MustBeDueSomeBetterFeet · 17/03/2020 16:29

I tweeted about Jeremy with the tag #huntforpm but now thinking it sounds a bit sinister....

Helenj1977 · 17/03/2020 16:32

My throat hurts and my jaw ache. Please tell me their not symptoms 😢

BlessedBeTheFruitCake · 17/03/2020 16:33

There's now 3 cases at our hospital 2 miles down the road, not feeling quite as calm as I was.

QueenofmyPrinces · 17/03/2020 16:33

What is everyone watching that is causing you to say Jeremy Hunt is excellent? He is doing a press conference somewhere or something?

Lumene · 17/03/2020 16:35

When is Boris? Have I missed it?

kirinm · 17/03/2020 16:36

Anyone else's employer still be a fucking arsehole?

Angryrant55 · 17/03/2020 16:37

Boris is running late. The BBC started their coverage at 3.45 so clearly was due at 4.

Notonthestairs · 17/03/2020 16:38

I can't get to a tv but Hunt is chairing the health select committee I think.

RedToothBrush · 17/03/2020 16:39

Matt Honeycomb-Foster @matt_hbfoster
Government’s redundancy payment helpline has had to temporarily close after suspected case of coronavirus in Edinburgh office.

Harry Cole @mrharrycole
Hear a similar fate hit one of the advertising agencies producing govt information campaign last week...

Now this might be just me reading too much into things but I'm starting to get a general sense (especially given what was said in yesterday's presser) that the disease is more widespread in cities and the South East atm.

I'm getting talk of a friend of a friend type stuff now but nothing more. Yet.

Angryrant55 · 17/03/2020 16:40

Laura Kuenssberg - 'Number 10 press conference live, expected in about twenty mins.'

Angryrant55 · 17/03/2020 16:42

Christopher Hope - 'A further 14 people, who tested positive for #coronavirus (Covid-19) have died, bringing the total number of confirmed reported deaths in England to 67.
Patients were aged between 93 and 45 years old and had underlying health conditions.'

danni0509 · 17/03/2020 16:42

Bbc news saying 69 death total overall for U.K. so another 14.

juneybean · 17/03/2020 16:42

69 surely?

starrysimon · 17/03/2020 16:42

I don’t think business’ and even the NHS themselves (in places) are really taking this as seriously as they could. No cleaning whatsoever happening in the supermarkets I’ve been in. Never seen the self service checkouts wiped over, trolley and basket handles ignored etc.

When I went to a growth scan at the hospital last week none of the staff were washing their hands after touching maternity books, computers, files etc. No wiping down of door handles, water dispensers, chairs etc. Really worrying!

Obviously it is mostly on our selves to keep clean but they could be a little bit more cautious.

yoloPenguinsEatfish · 17/03/2020 16:43

Things really have come to a pretty pass when we are saying that Hunt and Trump are doing a good job...