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How are the brexiteers feeling?

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Rhubarbpeony · 16/03/2020 15:31

The U.K. will face delays in getting the coronavirus vaccine as a result of our having left the EU. Now that we’re staring down the barrel of tangible consequences for that decision, how are the turkeys who voted for Christmas feeling?

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LouiseCollins28 · 16/03/2020 16:23

Surely this rather depends on who develops any vaccine doesn't it. So, if Britain develops one, then no delay perhaps?

lowlandLucky · 16/03/2020 16:23

Fine thanks

KonTikki · 16/03/2020 16:24

There are 3 centres of excellence developing a vaccine. The USA, China and the EU.
All have said that their own citizens come first and that does NOT include the UK.
Well done Turkeys !

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 16/03/2020 16:24

it's good that zombie apocalypse pandemics don't stop people trying to score points about Brexit.

CoronaToner · 16/03/2020 16:25

I think now is a time to put aside political difference, particularly the brexit issue, and just get on with it and try and support each other.

Now is not really the time for 'I told you so' (in fact, there is never a good time for 'i told you so')

I'm wondering why the OP thinks that it's ok to try and make brexiteers feel bad at the moment. Have you been holding all this anger and waiting for a good moment to have a pop?

Are you also going to criticise everyone else for their decisions? 'i bet you're pleased you smoked all your life now', 'do you regret eating all that and getting diabetes/obesity/heart trouble', 'told you you should have exercised more and drunk less'.... etc etc...

These kind of judgemental.pops are not necessary or welcome.

If you absolutely must keep harping on about brexit and airing your anger at leave voters - take it to the brexit area of mumsnet ...

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 16/03/2020 16:25

No, you need to get a grip on your need to scaremongering and need to ask yourself why exactly do you feel the need to it.

And it won’t be pretty.

Gothamgirl1970 · 16/03/2020 16:26

@Iwalkinmyclothing God Almighty I needed that laugh xx

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Rhubarbpeony · 16/03/2020 16:30

I'm wondering why the OP thinks that it's ok to try and make brexiteers feel bad at the moment. Have you been holding all this anger and waiting for a good moment to have a pop?

There have been many, many other occasions where I have shared my distress at the negative consequences of brexit, but this is the biggest one and people are dying as a result and I am simply not going to shut about it in case I make the people who voted for this feel bad. We were WARNED about this. We knew it was going to happen. And now that it has, we all have to smile and be nice in case the people who chose this feel a teensy bit sad and guilty for inflicting it on everyone?

Nope. Fuck that. If I’ve got to put up with the consequences of someone else’s choice, I wholeheartedly assert my right to tell the people who made that choice just how badly they fucked up.

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StormzyinaTCup · 16/03/2020 16:30

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/testing-coronavirus-cure-set-start-australia-weeks-first-participant-us-vaccine-trial-due-1492437%3famp=1

US and Australia - all good for UK👍🏻

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/not-for-sale-anger-in-germany-at-report-trump-seeking-exclusive-coronavirus-vaccine-deal

Final para says

If we are successful in developing an effective vaccine, then it should help and protect people across the world,” said Dietmar Hopp, head of principle investor dievini Hopp BioTech holding, in a statement

This turkey is still in fine fettle but thanks for asking😊

allthingsred · 16/03/2020 16:31

As if things arent crazy enough at the moment. Someone has to add Brexit in the mix.
Enough of all the hate/smugness/pulling apart.
Remained or Leaver Tory or labour this virus as literally sent people scrapping over toilet roll.
Its time to put differences aside & pull it together for each other.

SoupDragon · 16/03/2020 16:31

Do you really think the vaccine is going to be withheld?

NotaSAHM29 · 16/03/2020 16:32

There is also this. Shame that most of the people who voted for Boris and Brexit will be the ones most in need.

How are the brexiteers feeling?
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Rhubarbpeony · 16/03/2020 16:33

US and Australia - all good for UK

...why?

Second article is about the fact that an EU company refused to give the US exclusive access to their vaccine research. It does not give any indication that the EU will allow the UK to be treated as a member of the EMA despite having left the EMA.

In other words, you either didn’t read those articles or you didn’t understand them.

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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 16/03/2020 16:34

This isn’t how we going to get through this.

These threads have been divisive and deeply unpleasant.

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Rhubarbpeony · 16/03/2020 16:35

Do you really think the vaccine is going to be withheld?

I didn’t say it would be withheld, I said we would be delayed in accessing it because we are no longer a member of the organisation which allows the EU to make bulk purchases of medicines quicker and for a lower cost than is possible for non member states.

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Rhubarbpeony · 16/03/2020 16:36

These threads have been divisive and deeply unpleasant.

Then go and read something else

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CoronaToner · 16/03/2020 16:38

RubarbPeony - I get you are angry, but what do you think will be achieved by having a go and harping on about it? We can't turn the clock bavk. The vote is done. Brexit will happen. Leave won the vote. It's over. No ranting and raving about the consequences is going to achieve anything but continued divisiveness.

If you really care about this country (rather than just about whether you win a vote or not), about the welfare of people in it, about moving forward, about saving lives and helping the country prosper, you will get over the fact the vote didn't go your way, and you will try and do your best given the new circumstances you find yourself in (sure, your way might have been 'better', good for you!! Here here! Aren't you great and all that.. But we don't have the outcome you wanted regardless of whether it was the best one or not, so we need to just get on with what we do have and try and bring the country together)

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Rhubarbpeony · 16/03/2020 16:42

you will try and do your best given the new circumstances you find yourself in (sure, your way might have been 'better', good for you!! Here here! Aren't you great and all that.. But we don't have the outcome you wanted regardless of whether it was the best one or not, so we need to just get on with what we do have and try and bring the country together)

Genuinely, what makes you think I’m not doing that? Do you think complaining on the internet means I’m not still doing my best, helping people to the absolute extent of my ability, carrying on as best I can?

I can express fury and get on with my life at the same time. How odd to assume these things are mutually exclusive.

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CoronaToner · 16/03/2020 16:45

But expressing your fury at brexiteers is not doing your bit is it? It's not helping. It's making people feel bad or angry. It's rubbing salt in the wound. That doesn't help anyone. Telling the turkey 'ha ha you voted for Christmas what did you expect' as it heads towards the oven does not help the poor turkey does it. A kinder approach is not to mention it, help the turkey stay out of the oven, and think of ways to get around Christmas next year....

User7764217 · 16/03/2020 16:46

Then go and read something else

Did you start a thread yesterday about all the crappy posts you’ve seen on here lately and saying you wanted to leave the site? If so what made you decide to stay and start your own angry thread instead? (apologies if it’s not you, I haven’t been on here long enough myself to locate the search option)

Finallyatooth · 16/03/2020 16:47

I feel very happy with my decision and still think it was the right one. I fully understood what I was voting for and knew there would be some downsides, some of which would hit me in my pocket and effect me negatively in other ways too.

I still feel on balance it was the right choice for the future and for the nation.

Megan2018 · 16/03/2020 16:48

@Rhubarbpeony
I don’t feel that anything has been lost. We won’t see the benefits for a period of time until transition is complete and new trade agreements have begun. But there are no negatives either.

A leaver will ever convince a remainer or vice versa. I am happy to accept someone else has a different perspective. Why do you need someone to convince you of anything? There is nothing you can say to me that will make me change my mind on leaving, but I am perfectly content to have a different view.
My best friend is a socialist remainer and I am a conservative leaver. I don’t understand the need for all this aggression. Coronavirus doesn’t care who voted for what either.

The science will win out in the end but in a pandemic people will die. That will cause people great personal sadness but they are a natural phenomenon and we just have to accept it. Getting hysterical is pointless. Political point scoring right now is ridiculous.

Finallyatooth · 16/03/2020 16:48

@User7764217

Next to the blue box which says 'Trending Now' there is a purple box which says 'Advanced Search'. If you click on that you will get a series of boxes, one of which says 'username'. That will allow you to search by a username. That's assuming you are not on mobile. I'm not sure how you do that on mobile.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 16/03/2020 16:49

I will read where and what I want, and I will post wherever I think is necessary.

All these bitter schadenfreude threads bring nothing positive.