Lockdown won't work in U.K

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Because we are too rebellious. I cannot envisage people staying indoors for any length of time

In the Spanish lockdown it wouldn't be a valid reason, no. DH has bad sciatica at the moment, walking really helps. He can't do that. So he's doing stretches and going up and down the stairs.

genuine question as I'm totally confused - to the poster whose father was stopped from going on a bike ride - how is that any different from someone walking their dog? Surely on a bike you are LESS likely to come into contact with other human beings and therefore less likely to either catch or pass on CV? Its the one bit of exercise I am desperately hoping to be able to do once my gym gets shut down. I would be cycling on my own at 15mph average around very quiet country lanes for 3-4 hours and not stopping at any shops or cafes en route. How would this spread a virus?

Because if you live in a flat, your dog NEEDS to go out to defecate. You don't NEED to go on a bike ride. It's all about need.

I was talking to someone this morning who has friends who live in a flat in Spain and she was saying they are allowed out one at a time to walk the dog. Apparently the neighbours all take it in turns to take the dog out so they can get out for a while, but the poor dog is exhausted from so many walks!

MH issues here (severe GAD & OCD). Live rurally. Need to run, literally for sanity. Honestly more likely to die from being locked in than from coronavirus. Very rarely see anybody at 4 or 5am anyway. Now even more anxious about this - would it be a "valid reason"? 😣

Of course it is. MN is ridiculous, but hey, sneery self-righteousness makes some people go all warm and fuzzy inside.

It's not valid reason under the Spanish quarantine conditions. Would it be under UK quarantine conditons? I have no idea. But miserable as you may be, confinement means just that. It means you don't go out unless you NEED to. To buy food, to buy medicine, to let your dog take a shit. Exercise, however much you feel it helps your mental health isn't included in our quarantine conditions. Because if it were, everybody would be doing it, defeating the object.

To those saying there aren't enough police to enforce it, Spain is using drones to tell people to go home if they are on the streets.
9428 cases from 589 just under a week ago. Needs must.

What the 'Oh, but I'm different ' posters are forgetting is that once they are seen/heard out and about - and with fewer people and cars around at all times of the day and night, they will be noticed - the next person thinks 'Well, they're out, so I'm going out' and the next. And the next. And the utter dickhead who has a high temperature but doesn't think it's anything serious because they are fit does, then the one who says they'd rather die outside than indoors does, then the next, and the next, and the next.

Oh, and the people who would like to take advantage of those lone women and suchlike out in the dead of night will be out, relying upon it being seen as normal to be in the park or woods at 2am.

But hey, not liking being a bit stressed is so much more important than causing the self isolation/lockdown to fail completely, put themselves and, still most importantly, everybody else who doesn't want to catch it at risk.

Oh god 😆😆😆

I would be cycling on my own at 15mph average around very quiet country lanes for 3-4 hours and not stopping at any shops or cafes en route. How would this spread a virus?
I think it's more that if we make exceptions for some circumstances then that provides grounds for other to request exceptions such that things become unworkable
lockdown is only effective if people comply en masse
It seems very unfair to me that people with dogs should be allowed out if others arent, why should the needs of dogs be important, you chose to have an animal live in your human quarters, it's shit is therefore your problem.

Oh, please, you rarely see anyone in many rural areas, at all, ever. Or if you by chance do they are rarely close. And for people with MH conditions it's not about being 'a bit stressed'.

Instead of these roundabout threads, why don’t people just say they don’t want to spend weeks trapped in their house with their kids?

I'm so glad we live where we do, even though mice keep trying to get into our house, it's so much better than being surrounded by judgy gits.

Boris has just said we can go out to exercise but keep your distance from other people...

Instead of these roundabout threads, why don’t people just say they don’t want to spend weeks trapped in their house with their kids?

My two are teenagers and not much bother at all. But some of us already live in self-isolation .

I think once it really hits and you see the pressure on the health services and people start dying in larger numbers, fear will police people as much as police on the ground. Nothing like a nationwide state of emergency to focus even the most selfish minds.

I absolutely agree. Most people have not lived through a serious crisis before! They'll soon be glad to go inside to protect themselves!

I also have 2 teens and I think we'd quite enjoy an enforced time at home - time to read, play board games, etc and they are of course in touch with all their friends online anyway.

Lock down doesn't apply to me because I'm very very good at making up excuses for poor parenting, why I'm really special and why my bike moves faster than a speeding virus.

@blobby

That was me

No idea. Spain are on total lockdown. You aren't allowed to go and ride. Regardless of transmission. It's not about how much more you can infect someone. This is now lockdown. Regardless.

No idea. Spain are on total lockdown. You aren't allowed to go and ride. Regardless of transmission. It's not about how much more you can infect someone. This is now lockdown. Regardless. Exactly. Once you start making exceptions, people will take the piss. It works if everyone stays at home except for things they really really can't not do. Not things they would like to do.
Is that hard on people? Fuck yeah.

Lock down doesn't apply to me because I'm very very good at making up excuses for poor parenting, why I'm really special and why my bike moves faster than a speeding virus.

This

Once the death rate rises the police won't need to enforce a lockdown on most people. Peer pressure will do it. You will be seen as incredibly selfish if you go out unnecessarily. You will be shamed on social media. It will be seen as akin to drink driving.

Rest assured you won't be seen as a cool rebel.

Once the death rate rises the police won't need to enforce a lockdown on most people. Peer pressure will do it. You will be seen as incredibly selfish if you go out unnecessarily. You will be shamed on social media. It will be seen as akin to drink driving Totally. Already happening here. MASSIVE social pressure to conform to quarantine conditions.

There were some drunken British twats in Benidorm at the weekend ignoring the quarantine, weren't they? Hopefully theyve been watercannoned indoors now. Idiots.

I would be cycling on my own at 15mph average around very quiet country lanes for 3-4 hours and not stopping at any shops or cafes en route. How would this spread a virus?

If people are going to comply, people want to think we’re all in it together, with the same restrictions. If you go cycling, other people will want to.

We aren’t all the stars of this disaster movie. Remember you might be the extra or the plucky sidekick, both of whom end up dying in the street not because of the disaster but because of extenuating circumstances.

Maybe if we all just follow government directives, we can mitigate that.