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To think that maybe being vegan could've stopped this.

293 replies

Scapegoatforlife · 15/03/2020 08:34

See the link and post

www.instagram.com/p/B9uiHGJl5xo/?igshid=ae9keny8um35

In short : COVID-19 was caused by eating animals (bats)

Ebola, swine flu, bird flu , HIV , SARS and VCJD were caused by eating animals.

COVID-19 and the like would not exist had we not eaten them.

And each one has caused an epidemic of some sorts, whether that be globally or on a social scale.

After doing my own research I'm definitely going to be incorporating more vegan food into my diet and then transitioning fully.

I KNOW this is about the C word, however it's an AIBU and let's be honest people post non relevant stuff in here all the time and dont get policed for it.

OP posts:
mindproject · 15/03/2020 10:45

Maybe we need to all stop and start considering theories like this if we are going to solve some of the problems we now have. Just dismissing them out of hand, because you have completely made your mind up about something and aren't willing to challenge your thinking, is not helpful.

Ortega · 15/03/2020 10:46

You mean like the people saying 'if we all become vegan there wont be another pandemic'

And dismissing everything else to the contrary?

Dyrne · 15/03/2020 10:52

I cannot believe the arrogance of some of the posters on here.

There is already plenty of food to go around. Even with us bastards eating meat. The issue is getting the food to where it needs to be.

Going vegan is not going to solve world hunger.

mindproject · 15/03/2020 11:00

The minute a discussion on veganism starts the meat eaters all start behaving like a child who might have their toy taken away.

It is fine to consider this as a theory.

MitziK · 15/03/2020 11:04

It's fine to consider it as a theory, @mindproject, but in terms of biology, virology and pretty much any other -ology you like, it is scientifically nonsensical.

Nature - or in this case, Viruses - will always find a way.

Dyrne · 15/03/2020 11:06

mindproject This isn’t a theoretical discussion on veganism in the Western world. I actually agree as a “meat-eater” that we need to be more conscious of our consumption and cut down on eating meat.

This is responding to an OP who has decided that if weren’t for those nasty dirty savages in Africa and China choosing to eat meat; we would all be fine.

Oliversmumsarmy · 15/03/2020 11:10

What are the vegan solutions to iron anemia & protein deficiencies

Why do you think being vegan automatically means you have iron and protein deficiencies?

When I was growing up I ate meat.

I was always ill.
I had stomach problems, I was covered in eczema and various other health issues including anaemia on a regular basis.

Went vegetarian in my 20s

Overnight my stomach issues cleared up. I had more energy even my eczema cleared up apart from a few patches.
Gave up dairy in my 40s and my skin cleared completely.
Don’t like eggs so rarely eat them.

Since I became vegetarian I have never had anaemia.

Although I now don’t eat dairy I have never had any deficiencies in Vitamin B12 or any other vitamin or mineral.

I don’t see the why being Vegan means you automatically eat Avocados, Quinoa, expensive imported produce and processed foods.

I occasionally do eat an avocado but they are quite expensive so don’t usually eat them, I don’t like Quinoa, I tend to buy what ever is in season and don’t like the processed foods especially those that are made to resemble and taste like meat.
I never liked the taste when I ate meat so do try to avoid those sort of things

Dc were brought up vegetarian (both are now vegan).
Growing up they never had D&V. They had the odd cold once per year but nothing else.

Again they never took any vitamin supplements.

Just because you are vegan doesn’t mean you are splashing the cash on expensive food.

My shopping bill (I go twice per week because I have a small kitchen and fridge/freezer) is about £35 per time (Me, Dp 2xteens and 5 cats)
It would be a lot less without cat food, cat litter and a couple of meat/fish meals for Dp.

vodkaredbullgirl · 15/03/2020 11:10

Get the fuck out a here lol

differentnameforthis · 15/03/2020 11:13

Actually it is thought that it was caused by the handling of WILD animals in places like China and Bangkok.

Eating animals like this would likely not cause respiratory issues, more likely gut issues. But I am not an expert and happy to be corrected.

Also, some of us would be unable to live on a vegan diet.

mindproject · 15/03/2020 11:18

Oliversmum - I agree with you. I was vegetarian for 35 year before becoming vegan a few years ago. I've never had any deficiencies, I didn't even need iron tablets when pregnant as my iron levels were good. As a vegan I feel even healthier. I'm nearly 50 and no health problems at all.

I also spent less on food than most people. We eat a lot of vegetables, grains, oats, beans, lentils, rice, pasta, tofu, soya, nuts seeds - that is 80% of our diet and most of that is very cheap. I rarely buy vegan cheese Grin.

mindproject · 15/03/2020 11:19

spent - ha ha.

Fantasiaa · 15/03/2020 11:20

Yanbu

mindproject · 15/03/2020 11:21

Not everyone could eat a vegan diet, I agree, but most could.

Dyrne · 15/03/2020 11:22

Oliversmumsarmy again, this conversation is tackling the assumption that it is possible for the entire world to become vegan.

Ortega · 15/03/2020 11:22

The minute a discussion on veganism starts the meat eaters all start behaving like a child who might have their toy taken away.

No they dont. Some meat eaters, maybe. I am a meat eater but limit it. I think we all need to reduce meat consumption.

Saying eat more vegan good means nothing. I have no intention if stuffing my face with over processed, high calorie, mass produced food cause....vegan.

Both side of this argument have a few minority people who act like children when the subject comes up.

The fact that you cant see that and think meat eater = child like behaviour and wrong and vegan = adult reasonable behaviour and right, says alot about your view.

Fantasiaa · 15/03/2020 11:28

Who said you had too stuff yourself with over processed, high calorie, mass produced food cause....vegan? Hmm

Rhubarbpeony · 15/03/2020 11:28

@ortega food miles make virtually no difference. A kg of avocados flown in from Mexico emit 46 times less carbon than a kg of local, grass fed beef. The most environmentally indifferent vegan in the world still has a smaller carbon footprint for food than someone who only consumes local beef, lamb and dairy.

Rhubarbpeony · 15/03/2020 11:32

(Sorry that was confusing - I don’t mean they only eat beef and dairy - I mean the only beef and dairy they eat is local)

Ortega · 15/03/2020 11:36

Who said you had too stuff yourself with over processed, high calorie, mass produced food cause....vegan?

Well what's vegan food?

Or does it actually mean, eat normal food and less animal products.

Eat more vegan food means nothing. And 'vegan food', if usually full of crap.

Unless you mean eat more plant based food

Ortega · 15/03/2020 11:37

food miles make virtually no difference. A kg of avocados flown in from Mexico emit 46 times less carbon than a kg of local, grass fed beef.

Eating locally and less meat. At population would be load better than vegan from anywhere in the world.

titchy · 15/03/2020 11:37

Have you been watching Contagion again OP?

Oliversmumsarmy · 15/03/2020 11:39

Actually it is thought that it was caused by the handling of WILD animals in places like China and Bangkok

But if they weren’t going to eat them then they wouldn’t have been handling them

Saying eat more vegan good means nothing. I have no intention if stuffing my face with over processed, high calorie, mass produced food

What foods are these exactly?

Fruit and vegetables

Rice?

Beans and legumes?

Etc

I am presuming you already eat these foods so I don’t get where you are coming from.

Or is there a special meat eaters rice that is different to ordinary rice that is vegan?

Dyrne as I said on a previous post I did think it was possible that most of the world could become vegan. The only place I saw that could have a problem was parts of Africa.

mindproject

I wish people would open there minds to how great you feel on a vegan or even vegetarian diet.

I agree there are people who cannot eat vegan/vegetarian but it would be a small percentage and even if we just catered for those people it would turn the planet/global warming around.

steff13 · 15/03/2020 11:43

I thought it was from pangolins, not bats.

MarieFromStTropez · 15/03/2020 11:43

What are the vegan solutions to iron anemia & protein deficiencies.

This is such a load of shit. Have you ever met a person suffering from a protein deficiency? I bet you haven’t. The body needs very little protein in fact. And this can adequately be catered for on a vegan diet.

It’s really quite astonishing how much some of you have been brainwashed by the Meat Marketing Board, etc al.

Mistymonday · 15/03/2020 11:45

YANBU, I totally agree!