To think that maybe being vegan could've stopped this.

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See the link and post

www.instagram.com/p/B9uiHGJl5xo/?igshid=ae9keny8um35

In short : COVID-19 was caused by eating animals (bats)

Ebola, swine flu, bird flu , HIV , SARS and VCJD were caused by eating animals.

COVID-19 and the like would not exist had we not eaten them.

And each one has caused an epidemic of some sorts, whether that be globally or on a social scale.

After doing my own research I'm definitely going to be incorporating more vegan food into my diet and then transitioning fully.

I KNOW this is about the C word, however it's an AIBU and let's be honest people post non relevant stuff in here all the time and dont get policed for it.

THE OP ISN'T A VEGAN!
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This is turning into 'cancel the cheque'. Most of the actual vegans on here are shaking their heads along with everyone else, so please stop bitching about vegans when you're no more likely to be a twat if you are one than if you're not.

And the vegans from more affluent societies might not find veganism as appealing once imports of quinoa, avocados and other lovely exotic ingredients slow down dramatically (or get stopped altogether).
I am convinced a large proportion of vegans are practicing this particular diet because of its visual appeal and superficial knowledge of health benefits.
I might be completely wrong but I imagine consuming unusual species like bats (or animals who ate bats before being consumed by humans) was driven by extreme hunger to start with then it became more common if the taste or availability of the meat was reasonable.
Some societies do not have the luxury of choosing to be vegans.
Hygiene, education and observing rules are imperative in preventing some situations like this current outbreak.

We don’t actually know that Coronavirus was caused by eating bats or any other animal. Why isn’t anyone talking about the Wuhan biomedical research laboratory where these kinds of diseases are experimented with? It could have come from there for all we know.

There’s quite a lot of ignorance here.

Let’s face it, there was animal to human crossover somewhere and how many ways can that be achieved?
It is more likely to be from a food source.

I’m not vegan or vegetarian but I can understand the truth behind my choices of meat eating.

We don’t actually know that Coronavirus was caused by eating bats or any other animal. Why isn’t anyone talking about the Wuhan biomedical research laboratory where these kinds of diseases are experimented with? It could have come from there for all we know.

Or the American Army.

And the vegans from more affluent societies might not find veganism as appealing once imports of quinoa, avocados and other lovely exotic ingredients slow down dramatically (or get stopped altogether).

Exactly. It's lovely to be vegan when you have coconut yoghurt, and jackfruit 'pulled pork', and tofu, and Oatly 'barista' milk, and vegan cheese (actually maybe not ) and you have a posh blender that you can put it all in the make amazing meals that look fabulous on Instagram.

But what about the e.coli cases that were linked to fruit and veg!?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13597080

Eating food and shagging monkeys linked to diseases. Only toilet paper can save us now!

It depends on whether you believe the virus came from a lab or a market.
Coming from a lab wouldn't have made any difference to what you ate.

If the entire world went vegan the world's economy would collapse!!!!

Grow up

Fine. I give up. Food poverty clearly doesn’t exist. People obviously aren’t trying hard enough to source vegan protein locally; and there is no reason for anyone in the world to eat meat ever.

We need to look at our food consumption as a whole. I agree that flying avocados in from overseas is not sensible. But neither is the huge carbon footprint from the meat industry.

@BanningTheWordNaice. I don't get my news from instagram. I get my news from Radio 4. I'm not saying they're infallible, but they are amongst the most reputable sources globally. Rightly or wrongly.

For a lot of people, what you eat has absolutely fuck all to do with your 'lifestyle choices' and everything to do with what is going to keep you alive and thriving.

What an ignorant post! One of the reasons why so many people are starving in the world is because so much grain, etc. is fed to animals so that people can eat them.

its not just eating bats though is it? Its living in close quarters to animals or in the kind of housing where bats like to roost - bats live in trees & also in barns & they drink or fly over & defecate urinate or drip snot or sick up food over harvested food or people underneath - it short they contaminate vegetarian food too & the people who harvest it & they may have fleas or mites which bite & act as vectors - or people harvest food & touch & contaminate it in the process. You are being naïve & as pp have stated some of your vegan food has cost the poorest ability to source adequate diets in their homeland because food is being produced as a cash crop & not enough food is being grown for the local people. May I remind you that poisonous moulds grow on cereal crops which can kill? Or that insects vector viruses that live amongst plants? Or that in some areas the only way people can survive is to eat what is naturally available especially in times of want - we are lucky & can choose what we eat - many cannot

I'm a vegan.

It is maybe possible that being vegan could have stopped this, because coronavirus is possibly an example of mother nature fighting back and veganism is very environmentally friendly (ignore the people who say otherwise - they either don't know what they're talking about or have a vested interest).

It is also possible that veganism could have lessened a spread of any virus as being vegan means you are healthier and less likely to get really sick and pass things on. Since I became vegan I haven't had one single cold or illness and my cat allergy disappeared overnight. I didn't expect this to happen, it was a happy consequence.

This is just my experience of veganism, these are just my theories. I could be totally wrong so don't have a massive go at me if you disagree.

PMSL!

Would there be enough vegetation etc to sustain everyone if we all went vegan anyway ? Surely far more people would die of malnutrition than will die of coronavirus due to lack of food and a balanced diet.
Personally I know a handful of vegetarians well ( 4 or 5 v well ) and they are the most unhealthy people I am acquainted with to be honest. They are constantly ill with every cough , cold and virus going so I don't see it as a particularly healthy option anyway. And yes they do seem to eat a healthy vegetarian diet on the whole before anyone asks !

Good post mindproject

@flapjackfairy We are a vegan family and never get sick. And if less people ate meat, there would be MORE vegetation, not less, as so much would not be fed to fatten up animals. If you think about how much food a pig has to eat to grow, for instance, compared to how much food the pig yields at the end of it... there would be more food for everyone. A lot more.

A vegan uses a quarter of the land and resources as a meat eater, so if nearly everyone became vegan the whole world could be fed, rather than what we have right now.

Vegetarians are usually less healthy than vegans because they are still consuming dairy, which is not good for you and certainly makes it more likely for catching viruses because of the extra mucus that dairy causes. But, I doubt very much that the vegetarians you know are less healthy than the meat eaters, unless they are living on chips, cheese and chocolate.

Excellent. Given vegans never get ill they can do all the food deliveries and childcare and other essential jobs.

And if everyone stopped having sex, there would be no STDs - but it’s unrealistic. The best way to eat meat is hygienically, like having sex but using precautions. People won’t turn vegan overnight like they won’t stop having sex overnight.

We are non vegan family.

We are never sick

My kids just got back from Italy and in isolation. No symptoms.

I doubt that's down to what they class themsleves as.

Some meat eaters and incredibly healthy. Some vegetarians/vegans are incredibly unhealthy. And vice versa.

I am happy to keep going and helping as much as I can.

The only way everybody being vegan would have prevented this and any other disease would be if all wild animals were exterminated and the world was animal free.

Otherwise, you'd still have bats shitting on fruit, birds shitting on washing lines, insects doing their merry thing and mammals with very similar DNA getting diseases as a result of eating other animals, like Chimpanzees eating Monkeys, and then encountering humans.

Of course, with that would go the end of life on earth, but it would certainly stop the natural development of viruses and bacteria that can make humans ill. Because there wouldn't be any.

Be vegan if you like and are wealthy enough to do so without starving to death but don't be a twat by thinking natural processes in wild animals would stop and nobody would catch them just because people in china aren't eating bat burgers any more.