Do most people think this has been handled very badly?

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Even though people maybe disagree with my other thread about it MAYBE being exaggerated I think most people would agree it has been handled very badly. I only found out that it was their strategy to let it go through the country from Nigel farage (who I think is self-isolating lmao). They haven't communicated anything at all about shutdowns etc and BJ seems to be like a rabbit caught between the headlights and has show zero leadership. They haven't explained how people should eat drink when isolating how they should manage their kids etc. I don't think he will be voted in again maybe even Corbyn would have been better.

@Pixxie7 just because something is going to be difficult and challenging, doesn't mean you don't do it.

Children can still play in the garden if you have one. Use YouTube or the TV to get them to do dancing or exercise videos inside. Hold a "party" and play party games. There's all sorts of options that don't involve going outside and infecting everyone else just because it's easier than staying home for a week.

This is an Act of God.

Maybe but that doesn’t mean that we are responding to it correctly.

There’s a specific area of the site for Coronavirus chat.

But Helga, I will get fines x2, could lose school places, some won't get paid.

This is an act of arrogance by UK and food hygeine in China, not God.

People saying "if they want to self isolate,do it" are fools. If the govt don't make it a national measure, they will lose their jobs, their children could be kicked out of schools and fail exams,they have no one at home to look after children etc. Do you just rock up to your boss and say "for the next month I'm working from home"? No. You need the govt to do that for you.
When the govt do it, it's really quite another thing. it protects people. Employers than have sn obligation to protect you too, they have to change working practices. Detailed advice is issued.

All I know that here in Italy right now it is calm, resolute and organised. There is no panic buying. We are actually treating it like a war and there is a sense of public spirit. While you defend a guy who is putting you all at risk and making ineffective policy that doesn't stop the peak.

I stand corrected my kids are now adults so out of touch.

My daughter lives in Madrid, I live in Ireland. She is now on total lock down but just a week ago everything was relatively normal there. The spread of the virus has been rapid and now the health service is at breaking point. I am very relieved at how the Irish government is responding preemptively to ensure as far as possible that we don't follow Italy and Spain in how the virus has spread. Make no mistake, the UK is very much an outlier in its handling of this. I have a lot of loved ones there and I very much hope that you don't regret how your government is approaching this.

It’s not tedious it’s probably very wise to point out there’s experts and then there’s a couple of experts on conservative party’s payroll!!

The experts are civil servants who would be advising the government whether Labour or Conservative.

What do you not understand? We need to go about our business but maintain tight hygiene and avoid contact with others if you have a cough or fever.
Common sense says we should check on neighbours, stop stockpiling groceries for a zombie apocalypse and protect the vulnerable.

Corona is frightening, no one is saying it isn’t but we need to stay calm.

@pixxie7. Of course it's not good to be kept inside for months.

Churchill:

Things are not always right because they are hard, but if they are right one must not mind if they are also hard.

I think they are dealing with an unprecedented situation and trying to balance what is right for people’s health, the long term view and the economy because people still need to have jobs when it’s done.

Every country can say it was handled badly. From the Chinese to the Italians to the french. But I genuinely believe the people making the decisions in all these countries are really trying to do what is best with a situation no one has ever dealt with before and many conflicting facts.

Here, this might help you figure out how to eat and drink if you’re isolating

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-people-with-confirmed-or-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection

What happened to common sense and using your brain your given. Take accountability and responsibility for yourself and stop blaming the government for everything.

They will never get it right, if they did the opposite to would be complaining too.

For eating here is what you do:

If you are hungry then est, if you are not hungry dont eat

If you are thirsty drink water and stay hydrated.

Great quote Plucked

Where is the advice on how to disinfect food being brought into the home for vulnerable people in isolation? This is necessary, practical advice, and we're not getting it anywhere.

While you defend a guy who is putting you all at risk and making ineffective policy that doesn't stop the peak.

A lot of us disagree with him and think he is appalling but we are stuck with him for the time being @Pluckedpencil.

I have relatives in Italy who have also told me how smoothly the lockdown is going. I am impressed at how people have reacted.

@mintjulia. Sadly, even hand washing like Macbeth will not be enough to prevent the peak. You all know every other government in the world is handling this in entirely the opposite way, because they are using DATA FROM CHINA. You need to keep looking at China because they are actually no different to us, just far away. They have stopped it by isolating and containing it. It has been tough but it has worked. So we have a model that works. Promise me you will change your mind when you see this policy starting to work in Italy? I'm hoping even at that point it will save some lives in the UK.

it can’t be easy or healthy for kids to be stuck indoors for any length of time, let alone little ones. There has got to be a way around it.

Nobody said it would be easy, but life isn't and they would be getting their first valuable lesson in that early, that won't hurt them and may just do some good.

As far as healthy is concerned, if the place is in lockdown (so dramatic a word!) because of a very valid risk, they would be a lot more healthy inside than out.

Yes, parents will say "oh, it's going to be a nightmare keeping them entertained". Well, tough luck, by becoming a parent, that became part of the role. I know "parenting" (as it's called these days) isn't easy, I've been one for many years now.

Under present circumstances, having a Labour government would have been better. I can’t believe I’m saying this.

@awkwardturtle what’s labour or conservative got to do with it, they’re not independent that’s the point.

His comment about people dying was obviously intended to bring home the seriousness of the situation to those people who were still spouting about how it's nothing to worry about, being blown out of proportion and so on. Based on the data from other countries who are ahead of us on this, that's inevitable.

^this. Why don’t you listen to what he actually said? The comment was made in the context of criticism of “armchair experts who say this is just flu”. I can’t stand the man, but I was glad he said this because there are too many of those muppets out there, saying that they will carry on as usual and endangering vulnerable people.

I think this week things will drastically change

The government has never said it won’t close schools or enforce lock down just they are trying to pace the situation

Germany have only just closed school, France too and then the sudden lock down and they both have far more cases (though Germany fewer deaths)

Yes, but as it is so serious why would the government do so little about it?? That’s the main point.

We have no choice or control over our own lives now.