Worried about coronavirus thread 26

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Here is the new thread

Here is the link to the previous thread
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3846851-Worried-about-coronavirus-thread-25

We have just had a discussion here that what if it was children being severely affected like the elderly are. How different everything would be. I have a young child and a young adult child and I am certain they will be ok. It just seems so inhumane we are hanging our elderly and infirm out to dry.

I love the media story of China sending a plane full of medical staff and equipment, including ventilators to help Italy.

Reuters - 'Hindu group offers cow urine in a bid to ward off coronavirus.'

Sorry I had to post it.

Sky News Breaking - 'The Welsh Rugby Union says it has taken the "precautionary measure of suspending all forms of rugby" including training and rugby-related courses from 6pm today until the end of the month.'

Ocado stops working as coronavirus fears lead to panic buying t.co/P9HG19c1qU

BBC's Anna Holligan - 'However, as children and partners of those infected mostly aren’t being tested in the Netherlands now, very hard to know how much of an accurate reflection these figures offer.'

The number of coronavirus cases in the Netherlands has risen by 155 to 959, with two further deaths.

Sad news from the Netherlands.

Northern Irish executive divided - Nationalists want schools closed now unionists following the UK government and keeping them open.

BookMeOnTheSudExpress Sorry to hear you have de-regged. Hope you are okay and hope you come back. There really are some dreadful pp around.

The Mirror - 'Deadly coronavirus is believed to have claimed its 12th victim in the UK after an 88-year-old grandfather died in hospital last night.

The man passed away at North Manchester General Hospital, his family has confirmed.'

@NellyGrace AFIAK there hasn't been- my school is pushing the "wash your hands" message and staff did go home with coughs on Friday. There are a few very vulnerable students who are working in our welfare hub, so relatively isolated from the main school population.

But I'm not aware of any specific advice regarding vulnerable students, and IMO there should be. If I had a teenage child who would be more vulnerable, I would be keeping them off school now.

@Mohster - there was a very good thread on Twitter the other day by a Professor of Chemistry saying that actually soap does have a specific effect to inactivate the virus:

twitter.com/PalliThordarson/status/1236549305189597189

In essence it dissolves the fat membrane keeping the virus together, so it falls apart.

Alcohol does this too, but soap does it better.

Afternoon all. New stats at 2pm?

Blackburn College student has coronavirus, officials confirm | Lancashire Telegraph #COVIDー19 t.co/Csm9tkxvwh

BBC Sport - 'Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said the Tokyo Olympic Games will go ahead as planned in July, despite coronavirus concerns resulting in the postponement of sporting events.

Abe added the International Olympic Committee (IOC) will have the final decision whether Tokyo 2020 goes ahead.

"We will overcome the spread of the infection and host the Olympics without problem, as planned," Abe said.'

Cases in Wales are rising dramatically. In the past 5 days they have risen tenfold (from 6 to 60) - so doubling approx every 36 hours.

Almost certainly due to the targeting of testing rather than the rate of true cases, I would imagine, but still...

@defthand

Majority of cases in Germany are under 60, they are also further behind the curve compared to Italy and Spain.

Some stats for Germany here:
mobile.twitter.com/Cambridge_Rach/status/1238479192494346241

Arlene Foster has said that when schools close they will close for at least 16 weeks.

That's a huge amount of time, even if it's to include the summer holidays. I can't imagine how people will cope with that!

If this is really what they are anticipating, I can see why they are putting off school closures for as long as possible.

Giles Sheldrick - 'Breaking: NHS England has just confirmed a further nine patients have died of coronavirus.'

9 deaths in a day.
And still no lock-down or even no travel advice for the vulnerable.

I think in germany cases are spreading through the community but in Italy and Spain and here in the uk a lot of the dead are getting infected in hospital.

@buttermilkwaffles

Thanks for that link, very interesting. Similar situation to South Korea then. I wonder if this mean it initially took hold in German cities (cities have a younger demographic, typically).

16 weeks is a curious length though. You would imagine that would include the summer holidays, so that would start on the 11 May. That's surely going to be well after the horse has bolted, though it might coincide with when the last teacher drops. Unless they are considering moving the summer holidays.

Ryan Sabey - ' BREAKING: Ten patients have died after testing positive for Coronavirus, NHSEngland have just announced. The cases are from nine trusts.'

@nellodee
At least 16 weeks - could be longer.