China have contained virus within 7 weeks

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And they had far more cases than us. Why are we being told that it is too hard to contain the virus when we have far less cases as a starting point?

TBH, I do hope it is and then China did manage to contain it there.

Desperate for a bit of good news.

Martial law with extremely severe criminal sanctions for non compliance

Sounds fine to me, I dare you to say it on the thread where they're all bleating about all the reasons they just couldn't manage a week.

And that China...

Numbers are not higher in places like Xinjiang in Tibet, not because they are being hidden or fudged, but imo due to socioeconomic reasons. People in these provinces have less disposable income (west/east divide) and therefore do not travel as much hence less spread of the virus. Additionally, Xinjiang is not a hugely popular travel destination for the wealthier Chinese in the west.
I think some posters are mixing up North Korea and China: I believe NK
shot people for not complying with quarantine regulations, not China.

I also would not say that the virus has been contained. Strict measures continue particularly regarding arrivals in the country.
If you arrive in China now you are not locked up in quarantine. If you are symptom free you must self isolate at home for 14 days, unless you have come from Italy, Iran or South Korea where you cannot self isolate at home and have to go to a quarantine area. This is a hotel.

Sounds fine to me, I dare you to say it on the thread where they're all bleating about all the reasons they just couldn't manage a week. grin

I do see how it would be difficult with young children or dogs, especially if you live in a flat.

I do see how it would be difficult with young children or dogs, especially if you live in a flat.

Yes, not ideal. But it's like a war. We all have to make sacrifices. I think the situation is revealing a serious lack of resilience and a great deal of entitlement.

True.

Hopefully I addressed some of the points upthread.
My comments and experience are based on my province, not Hubei.
For those that think the Chinese were all aware and went away anyway, I think outside Hubei we were not really aware it was spreading (not saying the govt didn’t know, just what we ordinary bods thought). I was at dd’s School on 23rd January and there were rumours then and three days later everything was shut and we had to wear a mask to be allowed into the supermarket so shutdown happened quite quickly then. At that point there were three suspected cases in my city of 7 million. Was this too late?

For those that think the Chinese were all aware and went away anyway,

I think you are missing the point.

Ordinary people weren't aware, the government was. it's the government that should have acted sooner.

Numbers here aren’t being underestimated because of some kind of mass cover up conspiracy to keep the economy going, they’re underestimated because we don’t have the capacity to test everyone who should probably be tested. And thousands more won’t even realise they needed to be tested because they will have had mild symptoms.

Perhaps the govt should have acted sooner, perhaps they thought they could contain it in Wuhan.
Mistakes were made: from not learning the lessons from SARS to the initial cover up.
I have lived in China for 12 years and am well aware of the shortcomings of the govt, but extreme action appears to be working and a little glimmer of hope is vital.

So all of what we were saying above was right?

Where are the untrue and bizarre comments?

@NaturalBornWoman
Sounds fine to me, I dare you to say it on the thread where they're all bleating about all the reasons they just couldn't manage a week. grin
If I posted on that thread I am pretty sure I would get banned for “ personal attacks” I would not be able to be polite in my responses.

Numbers here are underestimated to hide the true extent of infection.

@NaturalBornWoman
Exactly: people need to make sacrifices. Social distancing appears to be working in China: it’s difficult, but with no vaccine and a long incubation period there seems to be no alternative.

So the numbers here are underestimated but the number the Chinese Government provided are true?

It is a glimmer of hope for China but I fear we are no where near doing the same. I know that’s doom and gloom but I’d feel better if we were on the same path, but we’re not.

@ChardonnaysPetDragon
The shootings
The cover up in Xinjiang
The fact that the virus has been contained - it’s not over yet.
Compulsory quarantine of foreigners arriving in China
All of these comments are untrue.

Numbers are probably underestimated everywhere, including China.

Numbers here are underestimated to hide the true extent of infection.

Where is your evidence for that? You think that people are being tested, getting positive results and then all scientists involved in the process are conspiring to cover it up? Bollocks.

Chinese New Year was cancelled in Hubei Province.The rest of China were free to travel and did so . That is the sorry truth.

Lol that you think we should emulate China. The Chinese government is a brutal totalitarian state with virtually no compunction against arbitrary arrest and torture. They will happily turn their military against their own citizens at any convenient point. They are corrupt and about as crooked as it is possible for a government to be.

You're going to tell me that in the face of a pandemic disaster the Chinese government came up with humane methods is limiting social contact that respected the rights of individuals? I accept that the news was it was people in North Korea being shot for breaking quarantine. I am quite prepared to believe the same happened in China. The day we think emulating the Chinese government is a good idea is a sad and stupid day indeed.

Also, it's great that they've managed to bring about a reduction in new cases. That's great. A) it may well not be true. The Chinese state media isn't renown for its truth telling as much as it's rampant propoganda (and also lol that you think the WHO has the resources to adequately man and supervise Chinese disinformation) B) even IF it is true, when lockdown ends, the resurgence that is predicted means all they've done at terrible human cost is kick the can down the road.

The PPs who have spelled out your naivete are right. You're dreamin.

No scientists are not conspiring in the UK. The testing is just not happening. That is official policy.

WHO have praised Chinas methods are their numbers have drastically reduced.

No scientists are not conspiring in the UK. The testing is just not happening. That is official policy

Hanlon’s razor. It’s not design it’s incompetence. There is no ‘official policy’ to understate figures.