Worried about coronavirus thread 25

[ofwarren]

Here's the new thread
I'll get Mumsnet to add the links later as I'm busy.

Remember the 208 increase is with practically no testing any more even of NHS staff exposed to coronavirus cases. They will only test us if we are hospital inpatients ourselves

Not yet, remember the 208 announced today were actually tested a couple of days ago, before the changes were made. So we won't be seeing that change quite yet. The reduction in testing was only announced last night.

That said, I know of someone who had a PPE failure with a confirmed covid 19 case at the start of the week, and they have been told to self isolate and refused testing unless symptoms present - that was decided yesterday morning. So for sure, minimal testing has been happening anyway!

This virus is containable, I agree, and if the government had been honest about death rates from the start, and presented this as the biggest risk to life since the war, and the worst health crisis since 1918, then I think fewer people would have been rolling eyes, and saying it is just a flu that might kill a few very old people, like any flu, and more people would have been willing to support each other, socially distance, not travel about, and sit it out.
As it stands we might all lose someone we love, or be the one lost.

At this rate we are going to be the last country to act responsibly. The WHO need to put any politics aside and call out our government. Now is not the time to worry about offending anybody.

If they are thinking of the U.K. when they say this stuff it’s not much help to us as it’s easily ignored by govt.

@SirVixofVixHall

Agreed. Playing it down has been extremely unhelpful.

WHO will never come and say it is the UK. They are politically neutral and would just not say it.

Boris is a stubborn arse and will not back down I fear. Of course he and his family will probably be guaranteed the best care so he gives zero fucks. It's the people in the thick of it that will lose their lives because of his policy.

Why are we being told that they expect around 20,000 people in Wales to die from this? Am I missing something? There wasn't that many deaths in China.

WORKERS AT FIAT CHRYSLER ASSEMBLY PLANT REFUSE WORK AMID CORONAVIRUS EXPOSURE CONCERNS - CBC

And now the diplomatic fallout starts....

From the Guardian:

The US State Department has summoned the Chinese ambassador over a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson’s comments about claims that the US military was responsible for bringing the new coronavirus to the province of Wuhan at the start of the outbreak.

That’s just breaking now on Reuters.

@dwp

I called the DWP to cancel the appointment because I have lymphoma. She asked why I hadn't mentioned lymphoma before, and I answered that it hadn't been an issue before. She said that I need to bring in proof. I'll drop it off, but I'm not meeting with them as I got a cold last time.

If you DWP insist you go in, I would go in and cough and sneeze all over them. If they can't follow their own government guidelines then screw them.

I am fuming at the Evening Standard front page saying how Lockdown might kill more people.

Look at how many people on threads are still talking about going on holiday.....i know society is more selfish than it used to be, but i think many of those people haven’t grasped the basic fact that movement spreads the virus. Staying put as much as possible and socially distancing is the only socially responsible thing to do.
It is as though people think they are somehow immune to this, and they won’t spread it.

20,000 people in Wales ?

Let's face it the goverment policy is a chicken Pox party policy

To be fair, they're hearing the government standing up in the HoC saying that meeting up with people and moving around and carrying on as normal won't spread it.

Unless they're taking the time to read around and listen to the WHO and read the papers, they'll believe their govt are the experts on this and will tell them when to stop doing stuff.

Why are no news outlets reporting that #BorisOut has been trending all day? People are concerned. People want action.

That's what they've just said on the news.

This Twitter thread discussing the flaws in the UK government's COVID strategy has a lot of points that I agree with (not all, but most).

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1238394313312292864.html

NEW: YouGov poll for Sky News

*1 in 4 haven't done changed behaviour

What have you done in last fortnight

Improve personal hygiene 61%
Avoid contact with people who have or seem to have the flu 24%
Avoid crowded public places 24%
Avoid travelling 14%
None of the above 25%

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
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NEW: YouGov poll for Sky News

• Only 1 in 3 think schools shd close

What do you think the Government should do to contain the Coronavirus

66% Encourage home working

59% Quarantine people meeting patients
56% Cancel large events
34% Close schools
27% Cancel hospital appts

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
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NEW: YouGov poll for Sky News

• Public broadly backing Boris Johnson's handling

How well is the UK government doing over Coronavirus?
Well 55%
Badly 30%
Don't know 14%

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
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YouGov / Sky News

Public support government handling of coronavirus ....

... but 25% say they haven’t changed their behaviour (hand washing; distancing) in the last fortnight

Poll taken before Boris 'many will die'.

@SirVixofVixHall

Health Minister Vaughan Gething said he has taken "decisive action" to "provide care and support to the most vulnerable people in our communities, whilst also making sure organisations and professionals are supported."

During a press conference in Cardiff, the Health Minister said a "worst case scenario" would see around 25,000 deaths in Wales.

An average flu season would see 8-10,000, he said.

GuessWhoBoo was that the Welsh news ? Will have to watch later as my dc are here.