Worried about coronavirus thread 25

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Here's the new thread
I'll get Mumsnet to add the links later as I'm busy.

People are scared and worried. People feel like the government should have taken decisive steps like most of the other nearby countries have.

Are we really so content with the levels of the other countries then?

Why are people so shocked at the increase

I fully understand the likely rises - but it's still a daily shock over it. Same as I fully understand my football team are likely to play appallingly and lose... but it's still gutting when it happens.

Some work is being done in South Korea to look at immunity in those who contracted covid19 and recovered (probably similar research ongoing elsewhere) so will be interesting to see what they find.

This is very interesting. The public needs to be made aware that research relating to if herd immunity can even be achieved is in the very early stages. We can’t be treated like children, they need to link us the papers they are basing their strategies on so we can decide for ourselves if we want to serve as Guinea pigs and ‘take it on the chin’!

I don’t get why people are rejecting the advice from the experts. Usually posters are all over the NHS to say how great it is but when their experts are stood next to a politician you don’t like, they’re questioning it.

Agree to an extent. You see this with the vaccine debate. You're mad if you don't vaccinate, but you're also mad if you don't vaccinate privately against chicken pox, even though it's not advised by the NHS and isn't on the schedule. People can't have it both ways. It's fine to just take notice of the advice you like, but don't criticise others for not doing so.

Guardian are saying it's plus 290?

@AlunWynsKnee If it were my GP, he would issue a prescription to a patient on an ACE asking for an ARB without hesitation. It might be a matter of a phone call, especially if your dad gets in there before the rush.

Are you by any chance a reincarnation of LeighHalfpennysThigh? If so, I think we are local-ish to each other.

Are we really so content with the levels of the other countries then?

I can’t speak for anyone else but I would be happier if our government had implemented restrictions on gatherings and closed schools yesterday like many others already have.

I don’t get this ‘killing off the burdens to society’

well until a last week or so these "poor vulnerable elderly" were getting "okay boomer"-ed right left and centre while being accused of being under-educated Tory voting Bretix loving racists who spend their fat cat pensions burning the planet with long haul flights & heating on their massive houses (bought for £10 in 1965 natch) while their children live in Victorian squalor working 90 hour weeks to support them. I thought Labour's best bet was for them all to die off asap?

Interesting that this has been done independently to the rest of the uni

I'm sure everyone knows, even with a lock down, schools shut.. It's going to be very hard to avoid covid.

But forcing people who really would like to try their best to avoid it is mentally torturous.
Banning information, keeping us in the dark, doing things differently is going to create civil unrest. Esp when the grim reality of parents starting to die, neighbours, and someone you know occurs.

People will catch it, I don't understand why the government inspite of asking for self isolation is actually leading us all to the NHS straight away?

If anyone watched that contagion program on I player it shows very clearly rapid transmission rates.

And that Brazilian president Bolsanaro has now tested positive (schadenfreude).

@Ghostontoast just purely out of interest what do you think more testing will achieve? Knowing how many cases we have in the country is not going to make them go away.. As long as those that are ill self isolate and only go to hospital if absolutely necessary then hopefully the peak will not be as bad on the NHS... Personally I would rather them not test then when I get a cough and self isolate the fear factor of getting it will be reduced as I will just assume I have had it, instead of worry g about catching it!

I swear the Trumps are spreading it. Peter Dutton, a minister in Australia, just tested positive after a bid it to the US and being photographed with Ivana Trump. Neither Brazil or Australia have many cases.

Aren't the stats of those infected now redundant? If Boris is knowingly not testing everyone, what are we supposed to do with these figures?

Possibly just use them to work out percentage hit rate of positives out of tests taken, to see if there are significant rises on that front at least.

Anyone got a calculator for percentage hit rate today compared to previous days?

How will we know when this thing goes away if we have stopped testing? And isn’t this terrible for science and later epidemiological studies?

I’d rather know where we are standing, even if it’s inexact.

Maighdeann almost as if they know a bit about Science, isn’t it?

"I don’t get why people are rejecting the advice from the experts."

@alwaysreadyforbed because this time the UK experts disagree with most of the experts everywhere else

This hasn't happened before with NHS advice,
which is normally mainstream wrt the rest of the world

Also, we have never been told before - by a modern PM at least - that
"many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time.”

That has scared many people, not just on MN

@Saucery absolutely

Dithering, I would do it then. Give them a ring and explain, I'm sure they'll understand and may have other pupils doing the same.

I know schools are checking which pupils have underlying health issues do that they're aware of implications.

@FusspotsMum I don't have the number tested yesterday, but the total figures yesterday were 2% of all tests were positive. Now it's 2.5%

Sorry I know it’s been done before but could one of you knowledgeable people tell me how this compares to Italy at the same time? Are we definitely going the same way?

@ScatteredMama82 thanks for letting us know about the increase! Anyone know how many tests today?

Won't they need mass testing to decide how they are going to play this tactical game of well-timed and science driven targeted social measures to flatten the curve?

Thanks for the very interesting info about the meds, @RedLentilYellowLentil

The numbers are too shonky to know @winningwhilstlosing. Test criteria too strict, now very limited hospital patient only testing.

We just have to wait and see.