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Cobra meeting? Schools

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tearsandtiaras · 12/03/2020 14:33

Has anyone heard anything about the results of the COBRA meeting yet?

Or news on schools closing?

Will they close universities too?

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idontlike789 · 12/03/2020 18:30

Noting from my employer yet , and most I suspect . If the schools close I can't go to work so what's the plan ?

ElenadeClermont · 12/03/2020 18:39

There is a fear that once schools reopen e.g. in China, the pandemic returns with a vengeance. We will soon find out.

ListeningQuietly · 12/03/2020 18:41

I think its funnier that the Chinese kids sabotaged the homework app Grin
www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-pupils-try-foil-online-homework-app

Mlou32 · 12/03/2020 18:47

@listeningquietly yes some of the students may still be wandering around town however if we stop face to face lectures, 300 students crammed into a small lecture theater then it does mitigate the risk to some extent. Students, like most most citizens, are going to be out and about anyway. Why add a crammed lecture theatre and the exact opposite of social distancing on top of that? I truly believe that reducing such close contact as much as is possible without causing major disruption is the best way to go. As Ireland and other counties have done off the back of public health advice.

ListeningQuietly · 12/03/2020 18:50

Mlou32
So what happens to students doing lab based courses ?
Mass Spectrometers are a bit tricky to take home

AlternativePerspective · 12/03/2020 19:59

School closures in Italy haven’t worked.

Locking down a part of the country only led to people going to the part that wasn’t locked down hence why the whole country was placed on lockdown.

Leaving cafe’s and bars etc open didn’t work because people were still going out in their droves, hence why everything was then shut apart from food shops and pharmacies.

If anything, Italy is an example of how not to do it. In three weeks when Italy starts removing restrictions people will rush out again, because talking about staying at home and actually doing it are two vastly different things. And if the numbers continue to go up then they won’t be able to lock down again because people are less likely to comply a second time.

In time the majority of people do need to contract the virus in order that they can build up herd immunity which will protect the more vulnerable.

Lockdowns aren’t about containing the virus, they are about manipulating when it peaks in order to provide the best care possible. It is going to peak, it’s just a case of when.

And there will always be deaths even when there is a vaccine, because vulnerable people do die of flu every year, this is why we need herd immunity, because a vaccine is unlikely to be given to all for a while yet.

CloudyVanilla · 12/03/2020 20:30

But if lockdown measures are to delay the peak to make it more manageable, how do we know they went successful? How do we know it wouldn't be spreading even faster without those measures in place?

If we know a large proportion of the population are going to get it inevitably, then it doesn't mean closures and other delay methods don't work because people still get it, it could still mean the spread has been successfully slowed, right?

I don't know. It sounds logical to me though.

CloudyVanilla · 12/03/2020 20:31

Weren't successful* sorry am feeding baby

ListeningQuietly · 12/03/2020 20:35

Cloudy
Japan has flattened its curve
by encouraging those who can to self isolate
by encouraging everybody to not touch others
by reducing public gatherings
by expecting high levels of personal hygiene
Singapore and Hong Kong have done the same

If people are sensible and try to reduce the number of people they pass it to, everybody will catch it gradually
rather than suddenly

CloudyVanilla · 12/03/2020 20:38

I wish we could do that then and reduce gathering. I totally get what you say about the resurgence if schools are locked down and then opened again. Why aren't the government banning large gatherings like NI and Japan then? It just feels so irresponsible.

We have an ageing population, surely there are quite a lot of vulnerable people out there. I am young with no health conditions and apparently children are not badly affected, so I'm not really worried for myself, it just seems irresponsible of the government to be doing what I perceive as very little

StatisticallyChallenged · 12/03/2020 20:45

The wording from the Chief Scientist was for school closures to be effective they need to close for 13-16 weeks (I think it was) and basically that the evidence didn't support this. They also said that children would not stay at home for that long and that would reduce the effectiveness.

They did also say (and I can't remember which of the 3 it was) that they do essentially need people to catch it so they develop immunity which I hadn't heard them say before.

GabsAlot · 12/03/2020 20:59

yes they did say 16 weeks for it to be effective-so closing for even 4 wont do anything

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StatisticallyChallenged · 12/03/2020 21:18

I noticed Sturgeon said "any closures would be through to summer" which wasn't mentioned in the main press conference

I wonder if the plan then (and this is PURE SUPPOSITION) is to hope the individual quarantine, then household quarantine, then elderly social distancing, pushes it out enough to get them to within 6 or so weeks of the (probably English) summer holidays before they have to make a call on schools? And at that point close them through the peak...

cheesemongery · 12/03/2020 21:22

Hahahaha just read back to de-railing the thread with fake news and could all those leave....

Fuck me, if you can't keep up with the online news papers and the statement that I saw before I even left to collect DD at 15.30 then survival of the fittest really does have some merit.

See ya Grin

cheesemongery · 12/03/2020 21:25

I suppose humble pie is out of the question.

Just laughing. Too paranoid to check anything other than BBC.

Good luck @tearsandtiaras I fear you'll need it.

tearsandtiaras · 12/03/2020 21:52

Gosh cheesemongery you are rude .

No idea what you are referring to as the press conference was at 4.45 not 3.30

And when asked to provide proof you failed to do so so as others said, anything you said would be a coincidence

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bemoreeverything · 12/03/2020 22:07

@cheesemongery

The online newspapers didn't know the result of the cobra meeting before it happened. Don't be so bloody ridiculous.

Like I said hours ago, it's coincidence, it knowledge that has given you call to gloat, rather nastily as well.

You should jump down from that high horse because you sound like an absolute child.

Grow up, stick with facts, don't be nasty, and maybe people will want to talk to you.

cheesemongery · 13/03/2020 10:18

OMG you are all so ridiculous. I hate to say it, but it was headline news in the DM - not a guess, not supposition, but actual quotes from Boris.

I'm not rude at all, I was quoting fact as I had read it at the time I had read, in fact a good time afterwards.

I'm not gloating because I 'guessed' and was right.

I read it online, in a british national newspaper, with quotes and a little video of BJ talking.

So again, DFODs.

cheesemongery · 13/03/2020 10:21

@bemoreeverything

you couldn't be more wrong.

Fucks sake, I read the news, I post the news, and I'm guessing it.

Yes, that's right... that's what happened Confused

I have nothing better to do than post on a thread with my guesses then gloat when I am right. Whilst being attacked by posters who don't believe the facts I am giving them are correct and assume I'm just a flukey BJ premonitioner.

Yeah.... See ya Grin

cheesemongery · 13/03/2020 10:22

and I couldn't give two shits if you people do or don't want to talk to me.

You're strange.

sqirrelfriends · 13/03/2020 10:24

@cheesemongery was it really a direct quote from Boris? I saw some newspapers suggesting what decisions might be made but they weren't quotes, just guesses.

And the DM is knows for being a tad sensationalist, isn't it?

cheesemongery · 13/03/2020 11:46

It was the results of the meeting.

I really do have better things to do than guess BJ's intentions and post fake news.

I have better things to do than reply to these posts too - to strange people who don't like the fact, that facts are posted on a thread asking for facts.

So very strange. Never mind, argue amongst yourselves, you're all boring me now.

CloudyVanilla · 13/03/2020 12:59

Getting more worried now. I cant believe he comes out with saying people will lose there loved ones alongside announcing the government are doing basically nothing.

I am on mat leave and my children haven't started school yet so I feel lucky in a sense but I'm desperately worried for my elderly parents, one of which is already very poorly and on oxygen with a respiratory condition.

Are we likely to see pharmacies staying open regardless?

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/03/2020 13:03

My school is starting to prepare home packs in the event of self isolation of pupils and also in the event of closure.

I think it will happen, it's just when.

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