Cobra meeting? Schools

[tearsandtiaras]

Has anyone heard anything about the results of the COBRA meeting yet?

Or news on schools closing?

Will they close universities too?

Well that answered my question!

I still predict schools will close next Friday. That'll mean 2 weeks off school + 2 weeks Easter holidays which should contain it

theyre syaing on bbc live schools would need to close for 16 weeks for it to stop it reaching peak and it snot feasible

@GabsAlot 16 weeks!! that takes us to the end of the academic year!

I still predict schools will close next Friday. That'll mean 2 weeks off school + 2 weeks Easter holidays which should contain it
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Its only just started ...........

Why? They’re saying there is no advantage to closing.

Sorry i meant for it to stop the virus spreading and thats not feasible they wont do that

@C3line

There is no advantage to closing schools yet, as the number of cases is not large enough for it to be spread in a significant way in schools.

However, as the number of cases increases, the danger of DC being in school will increase and schools will close. It is about taking the decision at a point where the advantages outweigh the disadvantages of closing.

They are saying the damage of closing schools is bigger than the benefit.

What’s interesting is that they are basically saying the peak is coming and can’t be stopped. It’s going to rip through the population and isn’t stoppable. Chief scientific officer saying up to ten thousand people already have it. So all they are trying to do is manage it to give people the best chance.

It’s not a case of if we shut x y and z we can stop or reduce this. It’s a case of it’s going to happen irrelevant of what we do, so we need to manage this.

There is no advantage to closing schools yet, as the number of cases is not large enough for it to be spread in a significant way in schools.
Considering the data analysed to date shows kids having much milder symptoms
we have NO WAY of knowing how many kids have it already

its not like the Govt is even testing people flying in from lockdown areas .....

I strongly suspect its already circulating very very widely

and its the supermarket delivery and checkout staff who will be the most effective superspreaders

Chinese schools were closed for at least a month and a half weren’t they? Maybe more.

But the UK is being guided by The Science and all the other countries who closed schools “early” are doing it wrong. Apparently

There is no advantage to closing schools yet, as the number of cases is not large enough for it to be spread in a significant way in schools.

This logic has more holes in it than a fishing net.

You'll catch it in the supermarket or at the cinema or in the park or on the train.
Closing the schools for two months will not change that.

Personally I'm avoiding going anywhere at all because I live right next to my elderly father who has underlying health problems. I also have a small baby. I do online shopping and I've stopped going into town or anywhere else. Aren't people sensible enough to do that?

I just don't understand the conflicting messages? If closing schools is not effective then why are other countries doing it? For shits and giggles? To look like they are taking action? It either works or it doesn't?

There is a lot of emphasis on 'the science'. Is 'the science' different in other countries then?

same, flame.

Did I just understand in the press conference that "the peak" is going to happen in between 10-14 weeks? Are our "the science" people who have no previous knowledge of this virus, crystal ball experts??

They keep repeating that we know nothing about this. @Bluntness100 you're right - it's coming, it's going to hit us like a train, and there's literally nothing we can do about it, particularly not put such a specific number of weeks on the "peak".

Moomin
You clearly do not have to go out to work.
You'd be stuck if your supermarket delivery driver did the same.

If closing schools is not effective then why are other countries doing it? For shits and giggles? To look like they are taking action? It either works or it doesn't?
It does if all of the children have both homes, access to the internet and people to look after them.
In China it worked, up to a point. In Hong Kong and Singapore its largely worked
in Italy it has patently failed.

I suppose if lots of staff self isolate because they are ill , then places will eventually shut anyway.
I'm being simplistic here but it's bound to happen from what I can gather from this long conference. It's going to spread regardless. Not that reassuring.

The message is that they intend it to spread so that this doesn't happen again (with this virus anyway).

Moomin
You clearly do not have to go out to work.
You'd be stuck if your supermarket delivery driver did the same.

I'm on maternity leave. Hence the but where I said I've got a small baby 🙄

I'm glad to be off at the moment because my job involves touching people who've often just got off flights.

Some people are just gagging for the schools to shut down.
I agree ,
Ok it most likely will happen but I don't think most people have thought of the consequences of schools closing .
The government needs to give advice to employers regarding wfh & taking time off etc that hasn't been given yet from what I understand. I've been given nothing from my employers yet . So until schools are given the go ahead to close we need a plan.

The thing with closing the schools is this.

Schools will be funded under their business as usual funding grants if they close as a result of government edict. Fair enough, only to be expected. If schools close, then childminders and private nurseries will also need to close - for the same reasons, that children are superspreaders. These are private businesses, but they will be closing as a result of a government edict, so would expect government compensation, to make it equitable- parents won't want to pay (or necessarily be able to pay if they are having to take time off work with their kids) so for parity with the school sector, they will seek funding from the DfE.

If this is agreed, then it sets a precedent for all types of businesses across the country to claim compensation from the government, because after all if a private nursery or childminder, who is not funded by the government usually, is given money to stay closed, other companies will also seek compensation. The government will find it very difficult to deny that, because after all this would be a novel payment to a private company.

I'm not saying the government is trying to save money by not closing schools, but there are a lot of scenarios for them to work through to make sure they don't end up inadvertently bankrupting the treasury or setting precedents.

idontlike
Have you seen this www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-your-complete-planning-guide-closures

I'm not frustrated that they haven't closed schools specifically, it's just that WHO was already saying that countries aren't doing enough and that the virus spread can be effectively delayed with early and rigorous measures.

I don't believe at all that the virus has to rip through the population unimpeded. I'm sure the science supports the implementation of things like school closures to delay the spread - I thought these plans were based on already established plans.

I don't mean this to sound snotty at all it's a genuine question - is there statistics to support those of you saying stuff like "more people will catch it if schools close" or is it just what you believe will happen?