worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Where are you getting the info the asthma is a comorbitity? I haven't actually seen that listed anywhere. (Genuine question.)

I've heard that too, I think it was from a doctor being asked questions on coronavirus on TV. I'd say from a non-medical standpoint that anything that affects your lungs and breathing has got to be a risk factor.

@myrtleWilson I never said that but the justification for keeping schools open a few days ago may not hold true today.
I never blindy believe things I am told, I question and question and question again. Maybe I should have more faith in those in charge.

@ChipotleBlessing The point is though , under normal circumstances people would be evaluated to assess whether ventilation would provide them the best chance. That chance is denied without assessment. Good that some may survive with just oxygen (one of the sources did say no treatment at all.)
To me the issue is that all the people in the queue really needed ventilation/ ITU support and it has to be given to those with the best chance and age/comorbidities rules many out before an assessment is made.

@SansaSnark Another good point.

I know it’s long and not sound bite friendly but if the interested public watch the video above then they wouldn’t just have to just trust us.

What is being discussed is in plain English and easy to understand but not the same as how we consume media. Not sure where the problem lies; media sales, people’s appetite for entertainment or attention span but it is there not hidden.

Meeting with opposition to discuss emergency bill for next week.

Is it just me or was Boris not looking too well earlier during the budget speech?

(Hancock statement is on Sky news)

Cobra again tomorrow.

I have been reading all day andi keep coming back to JFK's speech , ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country . If all of us that are well and able to help can and do we could not only survive this but thrive . If we shop for elderly and vulnerable neighbours and leave on doorsteps we can help self quarantine people . If we help out family and friends with childcare if schools close then we can share the hardships and help with the idea or herd immunity and keep the country running .

I should have read back more pages before typing “terrifying” .
Sorry, instant reaction. Have been at the dentist this afternoon, which was worrying me anyway as cases close by. Then came home and started reading the thread backwards.

The statement "we're going to... have another meeting tomorrow"

Keep washing hands then.

All in this together... that's about it really.

Comorbidities include chronic respiratory conditions. Asthma is a chronic respiratory condition along with COPD, idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, and cystic fibrosis.

Marsha these threads move so quickly what's being hidden or not hidden

Oh ffs

More about his MP buddy being ill than anything bloody else really!

Agree Ejmorgan
We all need to think and act as a community, and assess the risk to our community rather than individual risk.

Emergency bill next week, apparently. Another COBRA meeting tomorrow too.

Is that it? Wash your hands and we'll have another meeting tomorrow? (Am not near tv)

Deaths may be higher in Italy because a lot of Italians are heavy smokers.

I don't think I've met an Italian who doesn't smoke...

WHO definitions here

www.who.int/health-topics/chronic-respiratory-diseases#tab=tab_1

Was that it?????

Basically “hope my mate is ok, wash your hands and we are doing another COBRA”

The statement "we're going to... have another meeting tomorrow"

It's like that Red Dwarf skit of "we're going to hit it up with a leaflet campaign." (the emotion sucking monster thingee the name of which I forget at the moment)

Absolutely nothing. Fucking he’ll.

Nothing new today really, mostly about parliament and whether it will continue to sit.