worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

@FourTeaFallOut
China has stringent quarantine measures in place for those arriving back in the country. Hopefully this will minimise a second wave of infections. When I go home i will need to self isolate for 14 days at home and the local govt will come to my house twice per day to take my temperature.

I also don't think we are 100% sure people are getting reinfected. It may be a 2 phase virus and tests are also not 100% accurate in all cases.

With the two possible strains it may mean immunity to one doesn't lead to immunity to the other.

I found that these images have helped to calm my nerves.
Everyone is talking about 'pandemic' and the deaths and severity of COVID-19.

No one talks about the recoveries (doesn't make good news I guess.)

And do you think the situation in China is now completely contained?

Shanghai do you know what percentage roughly in China?

Sat on the bus and there's a child coughing frequently with no attempt to cover their mouth. Their adult is just sat there

Jumping -
Yes, viri mutate into a weaker form in the search for an easier host, weakening their effect. The vaccine, when available, will end it, ultimately.

Quite, also those posting 'facts' from 'experts', and making up their own theories/ adding up 2 and 2 and coming up with 10.

Agree

Maybe there could be a fact only/ no hearsay thread for balance?

Couldn't make it up - I just clicked onto my university update on their strategy.

They're... cleaning the door handles a bit more! (translation: ever)

I feel completely reassured

On Monday WHO spoke about not wanting to call it a pandemic yet - although it was implied they thought it probably was - as they didn't want to give the impression to governments that it was out of control which might discourage them from continuing with effective containment.

I've noticed that the overall death rate is creeping up again based on the deaths vs recovery figure.

It started off massively high like 30 or 40% in the early days as it takes a long time to be classed as recovered. It got as low as 5.7% last week it's now back to 6.2% which I suppose is due to the vast number of new cases in Europe.
The current death rate vs recovered in Italy is 38.6%. This is roughly I think where China was. For Iran it is 10.7% and 25% for the UK. However these figures are grossly skewed by the amount of time it takes to recover.

DC has severe autism and attends the local SN school.
There are some children with complex medical needs and some have sadly passed away in the past couple of years.
C19 would be pretty awful for them, but so far no measures announced that we know of.

I agree @Inkpaperstars when we look back on the lessons learned, I suspect failure to quarantine all travellers returning from Italy following the half term surge and not giving FCO advice against all travel to Italy will be a big mistake.

@nancypineapple - my DS had the same symptoms on Thursday last week - sore throat, temp, painful back etc. He was ill for 4 days and is fine now. He did get a bit of a cough but it passed quickly so I doubt it was CV.

Italy results are due shortly.
Fingers crossed the numbers aren't as dreadful as they have been.

@MarshaBradyo
A tiny percentage about 0.07 I think, but clearly a huge range depending on province.
Jiangsu, my province, around 700 cases with a population of 70 million.

When I go home i will need to self isolate for 14 days at home and the local govt will come to my house twice per day to take my temperature.

But it will only take a few asymptomatic incubators to seed another outbreak, although at least everyone knows what they are looking for now and so might extinguish it before an epidemic starts again, I suppose.

I have now decided to rename the virus, based on the pretty pictures of it on the news - the Ferrero Rocher of doom because it looks exactly like one of them!

Can someone who knows more than me tell me if this is realistic or not?

medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

A town close to me in Wales has a confirmed case. The first that had come from community spread in Wales, as they hadn't been abroad and neither have come in to contact with anyone else who had.

Also Matt Hancock to give statement at 7pm

I thought I saw an announcement| earlier that there will be a Government health broadcast at 7pm this evening. I wonder if they will say those who are elderly and with underlying health conditions should self isolate. I have been trying to persuade DH to do so for a few weeks- severe asthmatic, on trial drug etc.

The WHO live broadcast today: change in name partly due to governments inaction.

I don't think it's a broadcast, I think it's a statement in the Commons.