worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

People thinking there will be anything major in Hancock’s statement to the house have obviously not seen many ministerial statements to the house. There won’t be anything major in it. It will probably be about the testing capacity being extended, the new body which will look after people in self isolation etc. That level of thing, not school closures.

Isn't herd immunity 90-95% of population needed?

Is there meant to be some kind of update tonight on the next steps to be taken or have I imagined that?

Wow that’s a big spike in Qatar. Guess hot weather doesn’t bother this virus.

@chipotleblessing agree entirely this is likely to be a quite procedural statement explaining plans that are out there already!

I still think we are a week or two away from school closures

I’m wondering if we are 2 weeks away from schools closing. Logistically it would make sense to extend the Easter holidays. However, trying to get people to stay INSIDE is going to be a lot tougher

I think I read herd immunity kicks in at 80%. But this has been going on so long now I can't remember where I read it.

I think what bothers me most is not being kept informed of why decisions are being made.

Why are we not implementing even incremental social distancing now?

Why are we not telling people to work from home if they are able?
And advising the over 60s to take extra precautions?

I’m genuinely interested in the reasons. Is it because they feel we only have a few weeks of economic and social ‘time’ for restrictions and have to use it ‘wisely’?

Have they modeled different outcomes comparing acting now to later? I would like them to be more transparent as to why.

Whilst I’m sure many school kids are excited at the prospect that schools may close, I can’t help but feel there will be a large number of those from impoverished or abusive backgrounds who will be dreading the thought of being at home indefinitely.

I’m totally on the fence about this, yes it is a good idea to minimise risk of spread but then the chaos it will bring for those without childcare or in said horrid home life situations will be just awful.

There’s the issue of children who only eat at school too, what will happen to them? If this goes ahead they have to consider every single facet.

Thanks for the link @Catsrus Very informative!

For anyone who hasn't seen it go to page 19 and click on the link to view the Youtube video.

Hmmmmm just realised that my primary aged DC has come home today with a laminated card detailing login details for an online learning website.

I would be shocked and stunned if they actually closed schools this week. Maybe in a couple for weeks, but I rather expect tonight will just be an update: "blah blah blah some community transmission blah blah hospitals being prepared blah increased testing blah in coming weeks we might do other stuff."

@Fourtea I think that is about right, 75-80%. However this virus can pop up in clusters etc, so I think it takes some intelligent specific measures.

Also. Wash your hands.

say goodbye to your parents or grandparents

. Not all of us are lucky enough to still have them . What an insensitive and ridiculous comment.

#CANADA/ #HAMILTON- Cancer doctor at Hamilton Health Sciences tests positive for #coronavirus— city's 1st case. He has returned from #Hawaii

WHO says it is now a pandemic

Just got a letter from primary with instructions for home learning in the event of forced closure so schools have probably been instructed to step up preparations.

The government are being advised by scientists and experts who, presumably, know more than us ordinary people panicking on the internet. This level of blaming them for following advice is not helpful.

No government is going to aim to destroy it's populace. Some of you need to calm down.

Agreed. I'm only skimming this thread for facts now.

Drive-thru testing has started in Wolverhampton. There must be many more of these being set up throughout the country.

Probably no use to anyone but there was loads of hand gel in the Boots at Gatwick airside this morning.

Why do people keep saying "the plan" is for 80% to get it? The reasonable worst case scenario is that 80% will get infected, that's what the CMO said.

IMO they won’t close schools until we get to where Italy was a few days back, if at all.

They’ve nailed their colours to the mast: they’re prioritising the economy.

WHO says it is now a pandemic

As the world mutters, no shit Sherlock.

Oh! WHO really were resisting declaring pandemic previously, weren’t they @LemonSucker