worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Believe it or not, there isn't a perfect solution to this. Although I'm no fan of this government nor of Johnson, one of his skills is not to do the work himself but to find really knowledgeable people to do it for him. That's what he was like as mayor and that means he will readily take advice. He wants to be popular. That's his shtick. People advising the government really do this stuff for a living. They really have medical training and experience. This is best estimate stuff for experts.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/11/italy-considers-even-draconian-wuhan-style-quarantine/?utm_content=telegraph&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1583931194
Italy considers even more draconian 'Wuhan-style' coronavirus quarantine
More than 10,000 people have been infected and 631 have died in Europe's worst hit country

The northern region of Lombardy, the worst hit part, wants to implement what one Italian newspaper called "the Wuhan model" – the strictest possible control measures for at least two weeks.

Regional leaders are warning that failure to do so risks the collapse of the hospital system.

Under the proposed new regime, public transport would be drastically curtailed, some government offices would be closed and only pharmacies and shops selling food would be allowed to remain open.

How is social distancing going to work in salons My town is packed with them. I was talking about this to the manager of the salon where i went for lip and chin wax yesterday. She said if people start cancelling due to this she"ll go bust.

All very well telling ppl to go to work as normal but then if you also want social distancing so people cancel appointments like these, there is very little point in hairdressers and beauty therapists going to work if there are no customers!!

Re salons I wouldn’t get a hair cut soon, well not at the peak of it all anyway,

I have stopped going to the hairdresser. I will just have to attempt to cut it myself for a while.

So lets play pretend... School is out for today. Mrs Headteacher is at home, with her family.

Mr Hancock announces at 7pm that the schools will close. Will Mrs Headteacher be notified when the rest of the UK are via his statement or will she be told in advance by the LA?

Seems thermometers are also hard to come by. All are sold out at Argos, has anyone seen any

Amazon has some. Superdrug and Boots were out of them in my town this morning.

Re PP my body temp sits around the 35,36 mark, 37 for me is a temperature! Yes I am due a body upgrade I'm always bloody freezing and known for wearing hat with dressing gown!

The government are being advised by scientists and experts who, presumably, know more than us ordinary people panicking on the internet. This level of blaming them for following advice is not helpful.

No government is going to aim to destroy it's populace. Some of you need to calm down

@cjt110

I would guess she will find out at the same time as the rest of us. If they tell the LA and the LA disseminate it to schools first then the potential for leaks is huge.

same here, my normal body temp is 36, always has been

@Ontopofthesunset yes Boris wont make decisions himself he never has. This isnt his plan at all, he looks out of his depth because he doesnt have a clue. But he has never been a Donald Trump who pretends he does know and instead goes along with his advisors.

People like Chris Whitty are who presumably are driving the decisions based on their experience and what they know. We are not China locking us down would not be so easy

*So lets play pretend... School is out for today. Mrs Headteacher is at home, with her family.

Mr Hancock announces at 7pm that the schools will close. Will Mrs Headteacher be notified when the rest of the UK are via his statement or will she be told in advance by the LA?*

Mrs Headteacher would find out at the same time as the rest of us. Otherwise it would leak and the govt wouldn't have control of whatever message they want to put out along with any measures being put in place.

IMO, of course.

Presumably LAs have been busy putting contingency plans in place which would kick in once an announcement is made.

Wash your hands and be British

Yes. We've already resigned ourselves that Boris Fucking Johnson's plan for everything is to simply British your way out of it.

Brace yourself for any number of meaningless Dad's Army-style soundbites.

Thanks for the link. I think that’s really irresponsible of her.

I managed to get a thermometer at a local Lloyds Pharmacy

Mr Hancock announces at 7pm that the schools will close. Will Mrs Headteacher be notified when the rest of the UK are via his statement or will she be told in advance by the LA?

I think if that were going to happen we'd have leaks all over the place.

I suspect we will be told that we are about to move into the next phase and there will start to be closures. They won't closes schools nationally at the same time I suspect. My suspicion is school closures will be staggered regionally based on where is worst affected.

How is social distancing going to work in salons?

Probably best to avoid salons and hairdressers- far too close contact! They're closed in Italy and we're in China.

www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/eu-promises-takes-curb-coronavirus-live-updates-200310235816410.html

Huge spike of cases in Qatar.

We had a letter today saying if the school was to part close then they would prioritise year 6 and sats.
If it was to fully close they have sent passwords and links to online school work which were all ready attached to the letter.

So how long should men avoid the barbers? Are we going to see men sporting the 1970s long hair look in a few months time?

Looked at the testing stats on worldometer.. UK were doing OK.. Not anywhere nr the Italian levels but.. Better than I thought..

So how long should men avoid the barbers? Are we going to see men sporting the 1970s long hair look in a few months time?

Ha ha, yes - Probably!

@Alone07 Sorry, what did they mean about prioritising year 6 and SATS ..Does this mean they would keep year 6's in School if possible?