worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Mother nature at her finest...

Cjt yes i know killing us with their love.

How will they feel if that actually happens and its clear it's come home frim school.

All very well saying survival is high for parents age range but anything can happen.
How much lung damage is caused too.
We might be left with a lot less manual labourers for example.
Thing is too they are describing it as wfh but in reality business need plans for if their older bosses dont make it so someone can take over the work.

Makes you wonder how much globe trotting causes older people to die of flu too

Does anyone know what a London lockdown would mean in practice? I don't mind shutting down public transport (although it would be a massive pain as we don't have a car), museums etc but I have a 2 year old and the thought of not being able to take him to the park for example or being strictly confined to house is awful.

Coronavirus doctor reveals his patients in intensive care are as young as 40 that's not really because they are prioritising those patients most likely to be saved by the intervention made possible in ctu. A more interesting question would be, who is the oldest?

*@cjt110**. If you do really have inside knowledge of a London lockdown then it is truly irresponsible of you to share it on here. Some of the spread in Italy may have been caused by people hearing about the imminent lockdown and fleeing to other areas.

If you truly know this and people believe you and act on this information then you will in all possibility have blood on your hands. Disgraceful behaviour.*

Sit yourself down @aprilhope. @cjt110 was only quoting Charlotte Edwardes (journalist) who posted in on twitter. Link to the twitter post here: mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/1237743703424479238

ICU!

@FourTeaFallOut Dr Campbell said the median age in Italian hospitals is 65. So there is an equal spread of people above and below that age.

Given the Government's apathy on this and prioritisation of the economy I can’t imagine a London lockdown is likely!

I have advised my late-60s parents to stop their social activities now. If and when we become overwhelmed, they are most at risk and also most likely to be de-prioritised for treatment.

I think you should be able to go out. As long as you don't go around hugging everyone else, the virus isn't going to eg jump from one side of a park to the other.

For me it would be more about cancelling events and closing offices where people can WFH or having a skeleton staff.

If the government are lying about the risks then why were they all sat so closely together during the Budget talk today?

Barclays confirm case of coronavirus at Canary Wharf headquarters t.co/xVlBk7ZLL4 t.co/1IOhktXCnM
Daily Mirror

In the hospital or in ICU, @picklemewalnuts?

I am UTTERLY SICK of being LIED to by this government and PHE.

Well personally I can't think of a government, past or present who didn't lie continually.

@Jerseygaly My Mum is 55. She has COPD. This came after she had several chest infections then developed pneumonia. She is on antibiotics reguarly for recurrent chest infections. She is otherwise healthy. No way will I be sending my son to hers to put her at risk.

@AvocadoOwl Cheers. Clearly they DRTFT!

OK so it's now 456 in in the UK - somewhat short of the 500+ cases. However I am completely convinced that it is in the 500 plus - of course it is. With the NHS policy of refusing to test anyone unless they've been to Italy etc, then of course they are missing the community spread cases.

Completely irresponsible but this is the dark art of PR at its very worst. The UK trying to pretend it's not happening. Bastards. People will die due to their incompetence.

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8100411/Number-UK-coronavirus-cases-soars-456.html

My advice to anyone who has symptoms and wants to be tested for coronavirus:

LIE. SAY YOU HAVE BEEN TO ITALY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. JUST LIE. GET THE TEST AND SAVE LIVES.

We need to know the full picture.

What would really help would be more definition of terms.

So
Isolation
Self isolation
Quarantine
Lockdown
Social distancing

Etc.

Lockdown could mean no one can leave or enter, big events are cancelled, but day to day life carries on. Or it could mean no one leaves the house unless told they can. 🤷🏼‍♀️

They need to clarify levels of restriction.

Voluntary social distancing would be really useful, and really achievable. It could have a great impact, but they aren't suggesting it.

It's embarrassing being British.

Hungary have 13 cases and are closing things.

LIE. SAY YOU HAVE BEEN TO ITALY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS. JUST LIE. GET THE TEST AND SAVE LIVES this is really irresponsible.

I would lie to get a test.

Four tea, people hospitalised with CV. So I think he means the 20% not recovering at home.

People seem to be classed as ill for a long time, judging by the 'had it, died, recovered' stats.

I've we lie, then the boffins can't get accurate information from the numbers. They don't need to know how many cases, they need to know why there are cases.

So please don't.

Please do not lie to get a test. The reality of this is that you're diverting resources from people that then actually may die because of your actions.

Oh God. DH and I are in London for his transplant. My in laws and mum are looking after our kids 2 hours away. If I’m stuck here that will cause problems... 😞 so much stress 😞

Those saying lie, so they not check?