worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Thank you **h2gold

70% alcohol hand sanitiser I've found

www.thegreenoffice.co.uk/

type sanitiser into search... packs of 6.

I think the tests taken have been dropping for a few days, 1500, 1400, 1200?

I'm sure I heard the 10,000 tests from today reported on Radio 4 this morning .

Think Jenny Harries,Dep Chief Med Officer ,said in Corona virus select committee that they would increase from 13 March .

A friends child was sent home from school Monday because of symptoms. Day 12 after travelling. He is to be tested and the NHS have confirmed this but he's still not been tested meanwhile the other family members have been instructed to carry on as normal...

Can see how the figures are going up

Link to my previous post re Sunday/London lock down twitter.com/chedwardes/status/1237743703424479238?s=21

UK's testing criteria is bonkers - almost useless.

Read something interesting about S. Korea - apologies if it was on here - think on twitter though. They have tested 140,000 people. They use a different, more accurate test. It picks up more positives. This is why their number of cases is so high and mortality so low (0.6) - they are getting (almost) everyone.

We know that the virus is within communities now and yet they only test those that have travelled from red zones.... The numbers mean jack shit they are not a true reflection of the reality. The delay in testing those that have travelled, not testing those in contact with someone waiting to be tested are not included in the numbers. In correct advise from the government means transmission is much higher than these official numbers.

Before we realise this virus is on our doorstep it will be too late!

Changing the capacity doesn’t mean they’ll change the criteria. At the moment they can test 2500 a day but they’re doing half that.

The cynic in me feels like they hit a certain number of confirmed cases each day and stop.

That ISNT exponential spread then, is it?

I think it is. Because we are increasing by a % each day, and not by a static number. So 50 extra cases a day would be linear. 20% extra cases each day is exponential - because yesterday's growth increases today's growth.

It is, however, a slightly slower growth than some other countries have seen. Whether that is because the Government are doing something wrong (testing the wrong people) or because they are doing something right (slowing the spread) I have no idea.

And just because it is slower now, that doesn't mean ti doesn't have the potential to pick up momentum.

Here’s a link to the magical 10, 000 ( fwiw)

www.england.nhs.uk/2020/03/nhs-to-ramp-up-coronavirus-testing-labs/

If the 10k testing per day is rolled out today with a 24 hour turn around time we would see the results tomorrow?

Anyone know of any places that have any masks? pp3

Surely no. Positives vs no. Tests is the important bit and that will go down as they test more as at the moment they are only testing the most likely and still getting lots of negatives? Clutching at straws here. DC waiting heart surgery which is like to be cancelled now that gosh cardiac ward has cancelled non emergency procedures.

They’re not doing anything at all to stop the spread, so it can’t be that.

Unless the air is magic here (and not in France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland etc) then it’s the testing.

Even small countries like Denmark are seeing big spikes.

@Bumblesbumbles

I would expect it would take a while to collate the results. So the individual might get the results tomorrow, but they probably wouldn't be published until the following morning. At a guess.

@Custardy! 😱

@LittleRen nationalpost.com/pmn/health-pmn/uk-health-secretary-to-make-statement-in-parliament-on-coronavirus

@defthand

Well, probably, yes. But I like to give the benefit of the doubt...

Thanks Myrtle

Statement is probably just an overview/ update, similar to the one he made last week, which is here: www.gov.uk/government/speeches/coronavirus-action-plan-health-secretarys-statement-to-parliament

Will also probably include information specific to House of Commons, now that an MP has tested positive.
mobile.twitter.com/HouseofCommons/status/1237701877388718080

An announcement (rather than a statement to the house) regarding any significant change more likely to be made by the PM I would think?

Charlotte Edwardes:

The big question at the moment is when we move formally from the containment phase to full-on delay phase. A source tells me the government is likely to announce new measures this Sunday 15th. This would make sense because of the carefully worded announcement yesterday by...
Dr Jenny Harries, the deputy chief medical officer, in which she said the spread would peak “within the next 10 to 14 days”. I put this to the government but they refused to comment.
Obviously among initial measures will be the request that those with even mild symptoms...plan to self-isolate as already outlined by the scientific advisers. But I have also been told there will be a “London lockdown”, although very unclear what this would mean. Interesting that Matt Hancock making statement at 7 tonight

Here are the number of tests per day and % increase in cases for last 7 days

1424. 35%
1425. 42%
1426. 26%
1427. 33%
1428. 17%
1429. 17%
1430. 22%

@colouringinpro I think most places are out of stock (like screwfix etc). Some on amazon but either very expensive or long lead times

This is a pretty good graph showing testing.