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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 10:58

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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Rocketmam · 11/03/2020 14:15

If CV19 seemed to make children seriously ill (or if dc had health problems) I would have pulled dc out two weeks ago.

As it is I'm still ok to wait until they a) close parliament b) have a case in local schools of dc or parent c) they actually say I can take them out without a fine!

Though I worry about asthmatic DH and the fact he just can't seem to get his breath back. If it gets much worse and the government still don't act I think I will pull them out and they can fine me.

Helenj1977 · 11/03/2020 14:15

It takes 48 hours for the results doesn't it?

PumpkinPieAlibi · 11/03/2020 14:16

What worries me is that the general fatality rate is not going down from 65. In fact, in Italy it is hovering somewhere around 8%.

PumpkinPieAlibi · 11/03/2020 14:16

Sorry, I meant 6%

georgeggg · 11/03/2020 14:16

The numbers are going to explode once they start the 10,000 tests every 24hrs.

Skyejuly · 11/03/2020 14:16

What happens at 7pm?

FurForksSake · 11/03/2020 14:16

83 new cases, 1200 tested? Another drop in numbers tested I assume due to the low levels of people that qualified as less people are returning from the zones?

Sunshinesky1981 · 11/03/2020 14:17

@emsy86 Can you let me know where you saw that the increase to 10,000 test per day from today please. Everything i've read is saying they are preparing to increase but not clarified when it will be ready, sure i read on here should be within 2 weeks?

LittleRen · 11/03/2020 14:18

Where does it say about a statement being made tonight? I can't see that on any of the big news sites.

Bourdic · 11/03/2020 14:18

Last Wednesday’s figures came from 2748 tests - nearly 50% more than today’s figures. Pro rata, there would have been more than 120 today.% of positives 6.83 cf 4.15 yesterday ( yes I’ve done a spread sheet🙄)

colouringinpro · 11/03/2020 14:18

Biggest daily rise... I feel like I'm on a train that I can't get off, going somewhere I Really don't want to.

AvocadoOwl · 11/03/2020 14:19

Worldometers have finally updated their testing figures by country.

We are doing better than I thought comparatively speaking, especially compared with countries like France who have found more than double the number of cases despite testing half the number of people.

Some of the figures are estimated (inc France) and it only includes countries for whom figures are available but it's very interesting nonetheless.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/

defthand · 11/03/2020 14:19

It’s not from today. Increased testing will start “within weeks.”

vanillagirl1 · 11/03/2020 14:20

It's on Twitter that they'll make an announcement from commons at 7pm about Coronavirus

goingonahairbunt · 11/03/2020 14:20

A colleague of mine (from another office) was at an event last week and ended up sitting next to someone who had recently come back from Venice and was starting to feel extremely unwell. He was told he'd have to wait to be tested and wouldn't be able to be until this week. My colleague had subsequently become unwell and called 111 who have refused to test him as the person he was in contact with hadn't had a confirmed case - he's been advised to go about business as usual. How many others have been given the same advice?!

Bumblesbumbles · 11/03/2020 14:22

The announcement will be the usual- we may soon think about doing x or y

pussycatinboots · 11/03/2020 14:22

Is the reason there were only 1200 tested because the tests were done on sunday? takes a couple of days for the results to come through?

Neepandtatties · 11/03/2020 14:22

littleren I want to know that too.

myrtleWilson · 11/03/2020 14:22

Sunday Times journalist references source saying Sunday will be day we move into delay and talk of a "London lock down" @chedwardes on Twitter

CustardySergeant · 11/03/2020 14:22

In Italy people are having to live with the dead bodies of family members. There's a man whose sister died and a woman whose husband died. It must be traumatising. Sad

h2gold · 11/03/2020 14:22

@Sassenach85 Scottish Government. Cases by Health Board

www.gov.scot/coronavirus-covid-19/

SubjectMatterExpert · 11/03/2020 14:23

If your normal temperature was 34-35, and it’s crept to 37 over 3 days, would you be worried? So still in normal range, but relatively high. With mild flu symptoms?

lubeybooby · 11/03/2020 14:24

When are they beginning all these extra tests that were promised?

I think it's only then we'll begin to see a true reflection and I expect a very big jump then (though in reality it will have been higher all along)

Frazzled2207 · 11/03/2020 14:24

So the testing of 10,000 people a day. That's good but where is the actual manpower to do this?