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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 21

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 10:58

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Symptoms:
Common signs of infection include respiratory symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath and breathing difficulties. In more severe cases, infection can cause pneumonia, severe acute respiratory syndrome, kidney failure and even death.

MERS came from camels, SARS from civet cats.

(Extracts from WHO)

Helpful links

The new PHE dashboard for monitoring covid-19 latest published UK figures
www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england
Numbers for Wales (unknown update time)
phw.nhs.wales/topics/latest-information-on-novel-coronavirus-covid-19/

Look after yourself, help with managing your mental well-being, including for self-isolation here.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/coronavirus-and-your-wellbeing/

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

  • to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
  • to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure

read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c, vit d

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 70% vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

Flowers thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

OP posts:
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defthand · 11/03/2020 14:06

Just imagine how high it would be if they tested people who hadn’t only traveled to a tiny list of out of date places or had contact with a confirmed symptomatic patient?

whereareyousleep · 11/03/2020 14:06

*figure

Eeyoresstickhouse · 11/03/2020 14:07

Sky news make it 83 more cases confirmed.

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:07

The gov website says 324 at 9am yesterday. "As of 9:00am on 10 March 2020, 324 people have been confirmed as positive for COVID-19."

It still says the same?

ScatteredMama82 · 11/03/2020 14:07

@ofwarren it was 324 in England, 373 in UK at 9am yesterday. So 83 new cases.

whereareyousleep · 11/03/2020 14:07

I don't think that figure include Scotland etc

Sassenach85 · 11/03/2020 14:08

I want to keep dd off but everyone thinks I’m mad I wouldn’t even know where to start with the school

ofwarren · 11/03/2020 14:08

Ah right, ignore me then 😁

picklemewalnuts · 11/03/2020 14:08

Just for clarity, the three numbers across the top are
Cases. Deaths. Recoveries.

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:09

This whole Uk and England shit is too confusing. Just have one bloody set of numbers!

Helenj1977 · 11/03/2020 14:09

I've said when it jumps by 100 in one day I'll keep my kids home.

Let's be honest though, if they tested everyone with symptoms it would be way higher.

Lou0390 · 11/03/2020 14:10

A m

picklemewalnuts · 11/03/2020 14:10

I'm not sure what or why the are testing or tracking the numbers, when we all know they are not in any way accurate.

vanillagirl1 · 11/03/2020 14:10

456 is today's figure. Biggest jump yet

manicinsomniac · 11/03/2020 14:10

I'd say that's actually quite a small jump, isn't it?

We seem to be on that shallower trajectory of Japan and Singapore that someone posted threads ago rather than the very steep one of the big mainland European countries.

I'm feeling much more hopeful of getting through to the end of term while we keep increasing by 2 figure numbers.

SubjectMatterExpert · 11/03/2020 14:11

Signed up so I can join in! Grin

That ISNT exponential spread then, is it?

MarshaBradyo · 11/03/2020 14:11

It will always be the biggest jump yet pretty much, well until the other side which I doubt we are anywhere near

juneybean · 11/03/2020 14:11

But if they've only tested 1200, it's a higher percentage of positive... there's probably a lot being missed.

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:11

@onalongsabbatical My thread from Guardian is last updated 13m ago?

pussycatinboots · 11/03/2020 14:13

BJ is looking rather bloated, bog eyed and like a evolutionary throw back (when viewed from the side).

Now, now Bercows, there's no need for flattery Grin it won't get you anywhere fortunately

Skyejuly · 11/03/2020 14:13

It must be higher as people cant even get tested

DressingGownofDoom · 11/03/2020 14:14

@manicinsomniac we will probably see bigger numbers now with the added capacity for testing.

Sassenach85 · 11/03/2020 14:14

Does anyone have a link so that I can see which Scottish councils are infected?

FurForksSake · 11/03/2020 14:14

456, that feels like quite a leap

cjt110 · 11/03/2020 14:15

Now we wait for 7pm...