The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
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www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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Tempuserregularposter · 11/03/2020 07:53

So Nadine got ill on Friday 6th March? So less than a week into the illness?

cologne4711 · 11/03/2020 07:53

Bunny you're not supposed to panic buy. Can you afford to buy a few extra tins of soup and maybe some cereal and long life milk. If you feel ill you probably won't want to eat much anyway but soup and cereal will keep you going.

picklemewalnuts · 11/03/2020 07:54

Bunny, they haven't been talking about that yet.
Something will be in place though.

What items will you need, do you think? Imo, food is less of a problem- you can get very cheap food that keeps you going albeit not what you'd want to eat- lentils and oats, UHT milk etc.

Things like nappies, baby milk are harder.

RedToothBrush · 11/03/2020 07:54

Expired tests were 7 firemen in Washington close to the Life Care home where 19 people have died.

myrtleWilson · 11/03/2020 07:55

There's tonnes of evidence on threads that flu doesn't hit everyone as 'wouldn't bend over of a£50 note' and that for some strains of flu affecting some people it can be very mild and cold like.

SistemaAddict · 11/03/2020 07:55

@Sunshinesky1981 I had flu twice as a child and was wiped out. It took me weeks to recover properly. I remember struggling to breathe and not being able to get out of bed to go to the toilet. People who have a sniffle and carry on as normal whilst proclaiming they have flu give me the rage. If that was all it was do they really think we'd vaccinate against it??

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 07:56

Yes, indeed we did @picklemewalnuts

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BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 07:56

WHO report - from China statistics:

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Page 12-13 can be summarised as

40% mild - including cases with few or no symptoms
40% moderate - including pneumonia which is treated at home
13.8% severe - need oxygen in hospital
6.1% critical - need ICU

Delatron · 11/03/2020 07:58

Even on the BBC now they are describing the virus like flu as just feeling ill for a few days then wiped out for a few days. I don’t like this minimising. It may mean people don’t take enough time off work.
With flu I couldn’t get out of bed for a week then still felt crap a week later. Was about a month before I was back to normal.

DreamInLavender · 11/03/2020 07:58

I've had flu and carried on as usual before. I felt as if I was going to collapse at one point but still carried on, so people saying it defitnley disables you whilst you have it are wrong. Most of the time I just felt like pure death. Nasty stuff, but not completely unmanageable.

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 07:59

bercows sunshinesky1981
Ifnwas referencing mild,

Flu can steam roller you, or give you a few sniffles

nearly 80% have no remarkable symptoms.

So, no, not true

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Janemarpling · 11/03/2020 08:00

This is not my experience of it at all. All I could do was sleep.

BigChocFrenzy · 11/03/2020 08:00

When I had my only "proper flu", I was a 42-year-old gym rat

I lay in bed for 2 weeks

I unwisely went back to work as soon as I could get up

... and promptly came down with flu again - in bed another 2 weeks

I was tired for weeks afterwards
and it took me about 4 months to return to my previous good level of gym fitness - spin, lifting etc

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:00

Ah yes, thanks choc

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:02

But this will derail...so moving on

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myrtleWilson · 11/03/2020 08:04

bcf that sounds tough, but yours was 'Proper fly' in the same way that others have had 'proper flu (diagnostic tested) and not felt those symptoms. Please can we cease this refrain of 'proper flu'

Thunderpunt · 11/03/2020 08:05

Bunny in Italy one person is allowed out to shop for essentials.

Quartz2208 · 11/03/2020 08:06

80% wont need medical attention and will easily recover out of that 1/2 will have mild or not noticeable symptoms. The moderates are likely To feel like the flu accounts

Take the mail account of thebritish msn in wuhan he I think was moderate as it was a lot like my flu experience

There are so many things wrong with just flu it minimises both flu and coronavirus

HarrietOh · 11/03/2020 08:06

I had flu for the first time two years ago. Aches everywhere, insanely tired and couldn’t stop sleeping, fever, headaches, and a massive awful cough that strained a rib muscle that left me in agony for ages, every cough was a horrible stabbing pain that keeled me over. I was a 31 year old gym rat and didn’t feel right for weeks.
I get so annoyed these days when people have a sniffle and declare they have a flu. Most of the time the flu doesn’t even involve a runny nose! I now pay for the vaccine each year.

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:07

Oh god, its not minimising.

You might not feel that bad!

Like with flu, you might not feel that bad.

Most don't realise they have flu, thats the point.

Some will get it bad, feel steam rollered and takes weeks and sometimes months to recover, but only some, again, around 80%, like the 1 in 6 figure.

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AvocadoOwl · 11/03/2020 08:08

Oh let's not have the flu argument.

It's well established that some people can have mild cold symptoms and test positive for flu whilst others can be seriously ill.

HarrietOh · 11/03/2020 08:09

I think the point people are making is it’s extremely common for people with a cold to say they have “the flu” so when they haven’t had the actual flu (in a bad way) they aren’t concerned when everyone is saying CV is “just the flu.”

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:09

Some have sniffles and have flu, fact.

Like some will have cv and have sniffles, and some won't react.

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usernameishistory · 11/03/2020 08:11

But they might have the flu, without a test you cant know.

Its a very unclear analogy becausenin peoples mind flu is only knocked off your feet for weeks

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BookMeOnTheSudExpress · 11/03/2020 08:12

I'm not sure which Italian city you're in Thunderpunt- presumably at the heart of Lombardia, if those restrictions are in force where you are, but we don't have that restriction where I am.
What is monitored by all the shops is that they don't get crowded etc. For instance in smaller shops only a few at a time, and in supermarkets lines on the floor at the tills to maintain the distance.

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