The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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MarshaBradyo · 10/03/2020 11:43

Dd licked the wall the other day I was so I’m glad she’s not alone (age 2).

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 11:43

Underlying conditions make coronavirus more severe, and they're surprisingly common

A wide array of people are at risk, including those with high blood pressure and diabetes. Here's how they can prepare

High Blood Pressure
Cardiovascular
Asthma
Cancer

t.co/SluicqTmxK

Oakmaiden · 10/03/2020 11:43

Does everyone think it's ok To go on holiday in the uk?

It is a difficult one. Personally I think the cat is well and truly out of the bag and individuals travelling is at this point making very little difference. Obviously if EVERYONE stopped travelling, that would make a difference, but that won't happen until the Gvt say so. So at this point I would just go for it. But possibly don't go visit any hot spot hospitals...

cjt110 · 10/03/2020 11:44

Im just waiting for the text from school..."Come and collect your child"

FusspotsMum · 10/03/2020 11:44

thespinoff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Covid-19-curves-graphic-social-v2.gif

This is a clear moving graphic about the idea of delaying and reducing the peak, makes a good point for those who are less concerned.

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 11:44

'We're not prepared': coronavirus could devastate homeless communities t.co/SiodQTvjOq

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 11:46

'Terrified’ Trump afraid journalists will deliberately get coronavirus to pass it on to him, report claims t.co/IiJp3RH8od
The Independent

FingonTheValiant · 10/03/2020 11:47

cjt110 sorry, should confirm it was a wry laugh. Obviously it’s a nightmare time for him to start. Hopefully you can knock it on the head ASAP. I think I’d have gone full banshee if one of mine had done it. Adding emotional trauma to the situation...

Motorina · 10/03/2020 11:49

Yes @picklemewalnuts*
The figures were quoted on here with a source saying that of the 80% of mild cases 40% of these were moderate with pneumonia.*

I'm the one who highlighted this, and it's based on page 12 and 13 teh WHO report at www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf.

Interestingly, when I first read it, in the paragraph on p12 which outlines case definitions there was a clear statement that moderate meant pneumonia. That's been softened slightly to, "Approximately 80% of laboratory confirmed patients have had mild to moderate disease, which includes non-pneumonia and pneumonia cases". The footnote under diagram 5. on page 13 reads " Moderate cases have a mild form of pneumonia" and I'm drawing the conclusion that this forms half of mild/moderate cases from teh size of the bars in that diagram.

You could feel iller than you have in your life and still be in the mild/moderate category. Equally you could genuinely have just mild cold type symptoms. That mild/moderate category is a really broad one.

Homkaismycat · 10/03/2020 11:49

I found this detailed study of 140 Wuhan patients..
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/all.14238

ForeverRedSkinhead · 10/03/2020 11:49

Firstly, great thread @usernameishistory , very informative. I've been lurking and reading for days.

Secondly , this has probably been covered but would

YouAreTheEggManIAmTheWalrus · 10/03/2020 11:50

Someone made a graph;
Growth of Covid-19 in European countries in days since 100+ cases confirmed (includes 9th March UK update)

It confirms we are following the same trajectory as other European countries.

www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/ffvvka/growth_of_covid19_in_european_countries_in_days/

ForeverRedSkinhead · 10/03/2020 11:51

Sorry , my toddler tapped post.

...you be okay with your child going to New york on a school trip? She's due out in 2 weeks and I'm terrified of letting her go.

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 11:52

Green butterfly holidays in the UK right at this moment are probably ok, if you aren't visiting hot spots and you arent going to extremely busy places.
Problem is, nobody knows how the situation will be in a few weeks.
Because of my son who has a liver transplant, we are self isolating for the foreseeable. He ends up in hospital with a cold sometimes. I would feel ok 'at the moment' to go in a car to a log cabin in the middle of nowhere or camping in the woods or on a canal barge holiday.
As things progress, I would be staying at home personally.

cjt110 · 10/03/2020 11:53

@FingonTheValiant I did say "Oi, don't lick that - you don't know who has touched it" and he looked very bashful

Foobydoo · 10/03/2020 11:54

@Fourducksate the school I am talking of is a primary. They chose to cancel with everyone losing their money.
In the case of St Peters they must have chosen to go. I suppose it is difficult if parents are cross at losing money.
I bet they dont all take self quarantine seriously. I hope they have proper checks.

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 11:54

I wouldnt want her to go forever
They have the most cases in the US.
www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc.html

HarrietOh · 10/03/2020 11:55

The case in Sunderland that is in hospital, the woman’s son has publicly spoken and they said they haven’t been abroad and haven’t been in contact with anyone who has tested positive.

KarenTookTheKids · 10/03/2020 11:55

Forever, I would consider it if the school still are keen to go, if all of you can easily self-isolate afterwards if needed, if she is sensible and has good hygiene, if you all have good health. She will be mixing with massive amounts of people presumably which surely increases her chances of picking it up compared with being at home. She also needs to understand that things are changing quickly and there's the possibility she could become unwell there or be quarantined and unable to get home for a while (eg if they did temp checks at the airport and hers or a classmate was elevated for any reason). Lots of unknowns which makes it a very scary prospect. I don't envy you the decision!

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 11:56

Coronavirus spreads to Greek island of Lesbos t.co/oj5TXV0fnw t.co/0P47g1d0sp

cjt110 · 10/03/2020 11:56

The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advise against all but essential travel to Italy, due to an ongoing outbreak of coronavirus (Covid-19) and in line with various controls and restrictions imposed by the Italian authorities on 9 March. Is this the situation in which ABTA would grant a refund as per "The Foreign and Commonwealth Office is advising against travel to my destination, can I get a refund?
In the event of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advising UK nationals not to travel to a given area, we expect all of our Members to offer clients who are due to travel imminently, eg. within approximately 48 hours, either an equivalent alternative holiday or a full refund of all money paid." because it doesn't say not to travel full stop.... just avoid all but essential travel

Delatron · 10/03/2020 11:56

Thanks @Motorina I couldn’t remember which poster had sourced the info on ‘mild’ cases. Which many are just not mild at all!

emsy86 · 10/03/2020 11:57

I'm off to Paris in November and florida next may... Should I be worried

Motorina · 10/03/2020 11:58

@Delatron - hard to keep up with who's said what when the threads are moving so fast

Delatron · 10/03/2020 11:58

With regards to a trip to New York. Just think about healthcare access over there. I lived there one summer and had to visit an emergency room for an eye issue. It was awful and expensive. And I had insurance.

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