The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

In the coming days, guidance for healthcare professionals on Coronavirus (COVID-19) infection in pregnancy will be published by the RCOG, Royal College of Midwives, Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, Public Health England and Health Protection Scotland
....
www.rcog.org.uk/coronavirus-pregnancy

A plea,

to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE story remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure
read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

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Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow (or tissue and bin it). Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to
Break the transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others, by 20 seconds plus thorough hand washing (soap and water).

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.
(Anti bacterial does NOT do this and overuse may risk bacterial resistance).

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

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Huge thanks to all contributors; for updates and trying to keep to trusted sources of information.

The community here has been supportive and respectful despite worries, and that can make a huge difference in unknown times.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

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Horehound · 10/03/2020 08:33

Potential
Potential to be a major killer
Potential to not be

WaterSheep · 10/03/2020 08:34

Youngatheart00 I asked the same question earlier. I'm still not sure if the plan / guidance will change today. However it looks unlikely unless something drastic happens.

KOKOagainandagain · 10/03/2020 08:34

Talking about Cheltenham festival on R4 and what a fascinating case study it is! FFS.

Let's see what happens if large social gatherings are allowed to continue at the start of a local epidemic in a pandemic. We have known the answer to that one since the Spanish flu.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 08:34

"The Italian society of anesthesiology and intensive care has published 15 ethical recommendations to consider for doctors when deciding on admissions.
The criteria include the patient's age and the likelihood of survival, and not just 'first come first served.' "

I wonder if they would take an elderly patient off a ventilator if a young person comes in and there is no other one free
Will this be the NHS in a few weeks ?

Choux · 10/03/2020 08:34

The Seattle nursing home with 31 positive residents and 13 residents already dead has said on Monday it had no kits to test 65 employees showing symptoms of the respiratory illness

So despite being the US epicentre not everyone associated with the place has been tested. Has the US Gov't just concluded they are positive so no need to waste a test on them and add them to the official statistics?

I fear we are also trying to massage statistics with our test criteria.

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-nursinghome/seattle-area-nursing-home-unable-to-test-65-workers-with-covid-19-symptoms-idUSKBN20X01R

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 10/03/2020 08:36

Bloody hell

Trump on coronavirus: 'People are really surprised I understand this stuff' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51761880

I have no words...

Horehound · 10/03/2020 08:38

Has anyone seen this? It came up on my linked in feed. Looks like the transmission rate is lower than the sars thing

worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 19

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 08:42

Allowing Cheltenham to take place pisses me off
That really looks like profit before lives
The big betting firms and the wealthy wanting to run their horses
(yes, I know self-employed & small businesses earn from this - they have little influence)

We need to cancel all the big public events - they are the low-hanging fruit that cause the least disruption to the daily lives of most people or the economy
and can be enforced

We are at the stage when we need to accept a few measures now that will cost,
to try to avoid more draconian measures later

Horehound · 10/03/2020 08:45

I want Cheltenham to go ahead. At least the first race today to see if my horse cones in

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 08:45

So about the same infectiousness as flu
iirc the UK gets about 8 million flu cases, nearly all mild, to produce the 600-25,000 deaths

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 08:46

BJ probably has some bets on too, hence no ban

halcyondays · 10/03/2020 08:46

They already do assess patients to see if they are suitable for ICU treatment like ventilators. If they are frail and elderly, it may be decided that this kind of treatment could do more harm than good. It’s very u likely to work and if the patient does survive their quality of life will probably be very poor.

So even before Coronavirus many elderly patients either recovered from or died from pneumonia without ever being in ICU. If they are only testing ICU patients for the virus, they’re probably missing loads of cases.

Horehound · 10/03/2020 08:48

@BigChocFrenzy but I guess because lots of people are vaccinated against flu it means that Coronavirus will kill a lot more ?

slartibarti · 10/03/2020 08:49

Avamys nasal sprays is great too. Again prescription only.

No prescription needed if bought on line. I got mine from Simple online pharmacy.
I could have got a prescription from GP but wanted to avoid going in to the surgery.

BeardedMum · 10/03/2020 08:50

What bothers me is that in my kids school there is not even soap in the toilets🤷🏻‍♀️

originalcatlady · 10/03/2020 08:52

@Trolltoes alcohol injection wipes. They are quite "dry" so won't damage your phone.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 08:54

Horehound I think we're all assuming a much higher death rate from CV-19 than flu,
which has a death rate of "only" 0.01-0.1%

CMO is saying probably under 1% for CV-19
If it were 8 million people infected ... not reassuring
hence the desperate fight to reduce the numbers catching it - we can't let it get to flu numbers

tud41 · 10/03/2020 08:56

Are they waiting for 10-14 days for self isolation to come in to allow work forces to come up with contingency plans for this.. Seems the only logical reason

woodencoffeetable · 10/03/2020 08:57

@BeardedMum get onto the school secretary/admin and the pta.
our pta organised hand soaps & refills, paper towels and disinfectant for electronic equipment.

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 09:00

"The NHS or any health service cannot cope with a large number of people needing hospital care."

Disease control expert at @UniofExeter @Doctorshaib says people must try not to become infected to prevent #coronavirus spreading. MR

#KayBurley at #Breakfast #COVID19 t.co/mqaif1Fm6w

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 09:01

100-year-old man 'recovers from coronavirus' t.co/jDHP8HhLXv

Facingtheunkown · 10/03/2020 09:03

Bearded go to press about soap.

It's more Liverpool, Spanish match I'm worried about

ofwarren · 10/03/2020 09:04

Watch the video of how quickly people stripped the shelves in Australia 🙈

t.co/obbwtrpliP

Cheeseismylife · 10/03/2020 09:07

Try not to become infected!?!!?
Well thanks, I am trying but as my kids are still at school and OH at work and we're told business as usual it's a bit tricky as we don't know who might have it...

MrsMeg1 · 10/03/2020 09:10

@neveradullmoment99

That's very worrying. I am a teacher in s primaty school. Kids are washing their hands. Not in secondary though. My dd is at secondary. Heard others saying the same about other secondary schools

Same at my dc's secondary school, nothing has been said about hand washing or hygiene, still on parents cases about attendance so sick children attending dosed up on paracetamol. I noticed on parents evening that a number of the taps in the toilets didn't even work and both dc say often no soap. Some children coughing everywhere for a joke saying they've got Coronavirus. Not confident they are doing enough to help prevent the spread.

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