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Bored of the madness

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2dogsand1baby · 09/03/2020 13:40

So now I can't buy toilet paper or nappies in my local store and can't book a doctors appointment...!

I get the "fear of the unknown" but seriously!?

It's no worse than flu! Flu kills too and (most) people don't panic buy every winter. COVID only seems to be affecting people with underlying health issues. The flu vaccine doesn't always work as influenza changes all the time. I don't get it.

I'm just so bored of all the drama.

Unless I'm missing some vital information that hasn't been shared publicly?????

OP posts:
AlternativePerspective · 09/03/2020 16:31

When I asked if we needed to self-isolate in order to protect the more vulnerable members of society, the GP got really arsey and said that it was the responsibility of the older / medically vulnerable people to isolate themselves. to an extent though he’s right. While I wouldn’t go as far as to say that the vulnerable need to isolate themselves, people with underlying conditions do need to have a greater awareness of the conditions that may put them at risk and potentially take appropriate measures.

I have a serious heart condition, as a result of the flu as it happens, and I know that when I come into contact with anyone with a cold/flu/other infection I need to be ultra aware. I can’t expect everyone around me not to have a life because I might be affected.

I certainly have no intentions of self isolating but neither do I believe we need to go into lockdown to protect me.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 16:33

I wouldn't be too sure some of the Keep Calm & Carry On brigade aren't stashing stuff away. I'm alright, Jack

Nope - I'd personally never be that fucking selfish.

SnoozyLou · 09/03/2020 16:34

Don't go to work after you've come back from an area with a high infection rate. Don't send your son to school. Don't take holy communion. If an employee turns up back from on of these places, send them home, particularly if you run a GP's surgery, where vulnerable people are coming and going all day long. Do you think these are unreasonable steps? I don't. It's common sense, and it could save an awful lot of hardship and lives later on.

chipsandgin · 09/03/2020 16:36

It’s had the opposite effect on doctors appointments where we are, people are avoiding the surgery and there are loads available!

PointlessAddict · 09/03/2020 16:40

I agree @mrjellyisnotscary. That’s where I am. Concerned, wary and trying to protect ourselves but not totally blasé and not whipped into a frenzy of anxiety and/or thriving on the drama.

AlternativePerspective · 09/03/2020 16:42

I wouldn't be too sure some of the Keep Calm & Carry On brigade aren't stashing stuff away. I'm alright, Jack nope. I wouldn’t taint my kitchen with pot noodle any other time, I sure as hell ain’t going to start now. And when DP suggested I buy some long life milk I told him he would have to learn to drink tea without.

As for toilet rolls and hand sanitiser, I have no need to bulk buy them, and I see no reason why I would need to be self isolating anyway.

I have several hospital appointments over the next few weeks, all in hospitals where there have been positive diagnoses, have an interview for which I will need to travel. And somehow I think I will probably survive.

People stockpiling are as selfish as those they are insulting for not self isolating.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 16:42

Don't go to work after you've come back from an area with a high infection rate. Don't send your son to school

I think these are unreasonable steps if that would mean someone couldn't feed their children/ pay their rent/ incur non attendance fines/ had no one to care for their children, yes.

There are a LOT of people on here viewing things only form a position of relative privilege.

Snog · 09/03/2020 16:45

I'm frankly bored of people minimising the risks.
Keep Clean hands OP and Carry On, this is gonna impact all of us and it's only the start.

SnoozyLou · 09/03/2020 16:57

@todayisnottuesday I think you're spoiling for an argument with someone, so this is the last time I'm going to engage.

Holidays are a privilege, not a right. If you choose to go somewhere and put yourself at risk, would you really come straight back and expose everyone around you to that risk, including elderly and immunocompromised patients? All so you could go skiing? And you're implying that I'm speaking from a position of "relative privilege"?

Anyway, regardless of rhetorical arguments, self-isolation is being imposed now anyway, so thankfully it makes sense to some.

Ok. Take care now. Bye bye then.

bellinisurge · 09/03/2020 16:58

"I see no reason why I would need to be self isolating anyway. "

I'm in an office of 600. Two colleagues are being tested for covid 19 having presented symptoms. If they test positive, some if not all of us will need to self isolate. So it doesn't really matter how much willy waving you do about how it's all trivial nonsense. You'd have to self isolate. Hope you have enough bog roll, particularly if you are having to self isolate within your house.
But I'm sure it's al fiiiiiine.

YgritteSnow · 09/03/2020 17:07

Some very sensible posters on here @AlternativePerspective and @todayisnottuesday. It's refreshing.

AlternativePerspective · 09/03/2020 17:10

Well, the people who will be needing the loo roll are the ones who’ll lose their jobs over this. You know, the nursery staff who won’t be being paid, the other small company staff who won’t be being paid and who in many instances will end up without jobs because their companies will fold.

And what of long-term childcare when nurseries start closing and can no longer afford to trade so have to fold altogether.

People talk about a bit of a hit on the economy as if it’s just a blip. Interesting how people were talking about how Brexit was going to destroy our economy but now apparently it’s ok to do so in the name of hysteria.

The virus is highly unlikely to affect the vast majority of people in the way the impact on the economy is.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 17:17

This is the last time I'm going to engage

Good, because I am looking for rational debate based on facts not assumption. There is a difference between 'spoiling for an argument' and trying to offer an alternative true.

Holidays are a privilege, not a right. If you choose to go somewhere and put yourself at risk, would you really come straight back and expose everyone around you to that risk, including elderly and immunocompromised patients?

Where is your proof everyone returning from such places have been on holiday and not caring for/ visiting sick/ dying relatives for example?

Ok. Take care now. Bye bye then.. - seriously now? Some need to grow the fuck up.

If you choose to go somewhere and put yourself at risk, would you really come straight back and expose everyone around you to that risk, including elderly and immunocompromised patients? All so you could go skiing?

And if I wan't skiing/ on holiday and my trip had been essential, and had no childcare/ would have no food/ money/ job to return to if I had to self isolate your answers to all that is? What a shame you won't be responding as I was SO sure you'd have the answer to all of those things....

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 17:18

Some very sensible posters on here @AlternativePerspective and @todayisnottuesday. It's refreshing.

Thank you - rather like talking to a brick wall most of the time though.

MrsSpenserGregson · 09/03/2020 17:26

@todayisnottuesday

Oh yes I agree, the GP was right, but I guess it was rather - erm - confronting to hear someone say it in such bald terms when the government and the media seem to have been at pains not to say it.

I suspect this is why our government is still going with the "contain" approach. Or as I think of it, most of us are going to get this virus, we just need to get on with it.

But if I had elderly / sick relatives, I'd be bloody worried for them Sad

PointlessAddict · 09/03/2020 17:34

@bellinisurge obviously a workplace can instruct staff who should be self isolating to stay away, but no one “has to” self isolate. It’s advice only. Last time I looked we didn’t live in a police state and while it may be immoral/selfish for people to disobey the advice there’s no “has to” about it

SnoozyLou · 09/03/2020 17:45

seriously now? Some need to grow the fuck up

Seriously, why the need for such rudeness and thinly veiled digs/ passive aggression at anyone who dares to have a differing opinion on here? No need for it.

DownstairsMixUp · 09/03/2020 17:46

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Humina · 09/03/2020 17:54

SARS was not the same as this.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 17:58

I was told by an out-of-hours GP yesterday (we'd called 111 because DS has all the symptoms of coronavirus)

Oh yes I agree, the GP was right

If you knew the GP was right, and this was the advice you'd be given why did you waste the resources of an out of hours 111 call and GP? The NHS website clearly says only those who are in at risk groups need to contact them, and you are clearly able to navigate the internet and access advice so why didn't yo0u?

Health professionals are only human, and they are stretched to the limit - I think he was very civil with you actually given the circumstances.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 18:02

But if I had elderly / sick relatives, I'd be bloody worried for them

Yet you're quite happy to access health services you do not need and potentially take the time and resources away from those who actually may need them, such as the sick/ elderly?

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2dogsand1baby · 09/03/2020 18:02

Well that all escalated rather...! And in typical Mumsnet style, my original point was entirely lost on most of you.

Why are people panic buying so ridiculously when they only need to be quarantined for 2 weeks? Maybe longer if they have symptoms. They do not need to fill up trolleys with dozens of loaves of bread for example.

I am not an evil person; I'm not bored of death. It's the media hype and it's effect that I'm bored of!

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DianaT1969 · 09/03/2020 20:08

OP, let's say you are an Italian family of 4. You're in forced quarantine in a locked down area. Perhaps sick, perhaps not. Shops and cafes closed. Not much service from online deliveries and long delays in getting a slot. 1 standard size fridge and freezer. By day 10, wouldn't you be a bit concerned that you hadn't bought anything extra at the start of the outbreak? Your normal food ran out a couple of days ago and now you are eating tinned sardines with peanut butter and black coffee and tap water.
You have no idea if forced government lockdown will last another 2 days or 2 weeks.
Hmmm. Those stupid people who bought extra supplies as the outbreak started.

Conrad79 · 09/03/2020 20:19

OP you are part of the problem. By creating a new thread & winding people up about a highly emotive and serious subject.

That’s exactly what the media is also doing.

if you’re so bored of the hype the best thing you can do is to keep calm (and quiet) and carry on (and don’t antagonise people for attention).

Don’t be an ignorant dick Hmm

Ohdearymeshame · 09/03/2020 22:00

Italy lock down has changed everything

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