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Bored of the madness

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2dogsand1baby · 09/03/2020 13:40

So now I can't buy toilet paper or nappies in my local store and can't book a doctors appointment...!

I get the "fear of the unknown" but seriously!?

It's no worse than flu! Flu kills too and (most) people don't panic buy every winter. COVID only seems to be affecting people with underlying health issues. The flu vaccine doesn't always work as influenza changes all the time. I don't get it.

I'm just so bored of all the drama.

Unless I'm missing some vital information that hasn't been shared publicly?????

OP posts:
todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 14:50

Every last shred of information that we know about this virus is out there to read for yourself in the way of reports, graphs and data.

We don't actually known that for sure, but regardless - it IS fear of the unknown - viruses like this are often incredibly unpredictable, so even the experts simply do not know how it is going to progress. There is not enough knowledge out there yet to make massive predictions, yet people (including some so called experts) are doing that anyway, they are making tenuous, erroneous assumptions and presenting them as fact. That helps no one.

SnoozyLou · 09/03/2020 14:51

Do you want to go over to Italy and tell all the doctors and nurses it's no worse than flu? I'm sure they'd be massively grateful and very reassured.

Panic buying is stupid, but so is denial. If you think it can't affect you and it's really just down to these expendable vulnerable folk to lay low - well crack on and good luck to you.

DianaT1969 · 09/03/2020 14:52

Why don't you pop to Italy for a weekend OP? You might get some insight into how this virus is likely to develop in the UK.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 14:53

how this virus is likely to develop in the UK

Where is the evidence it is 'likely' too progress in the same way in the UK then?

YouAreTheEggManIAmTheWalrus · 09/03/2020 14:56

You ask if you’ve missed some information thats been shared publicly. I was going to leave a load of links, but it’s not mine or anyone’s job to educate you. Have a scan through the forum linked below. Read the links and articles and front line testimonies to see what is happening not a million miles away and what will on happening on our doorstep in no time. For gods sake, please get your head out of the sand.

www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/

Kazzyhoward · 09/03/2020 14:56

It's no worse than flu!

Yes it is - those at risk re flu have access to vaccines etc which is why "normal" flu doesn't kill that many people. Coronavirus doesn't have a vaccine, so people are far more likely to either die or end up permanently damaged.

Sorry you're bored. Perhaps you should have a little compassion for those with underlying health issues, many of whom have young children, are carers, are valuable workers, etc. It's not just the old at risk.

MangePasTesOnglesVilain · 09/03/2020 14:56

So the news from Italy doesn't interest you?

Is the Italian PM just being dramatic about someone dying every 5 minutes (and rising) calling it 'The Darkest Hour' after Churchill's war speech.

Or is that too boring?

DianaT1969 · 09/03/2020 14:57

Also, have a thought for all the jobs and companies affected by this already. People working for airlines, hotels, cruises, in events/conferences etc. So many places are seeing less paying customers, including restaurants, gyms, sporting events. Large-scale events cancelled. Lots of sectors are affected. Jobs in jeopardy. No pay to zero hour and freelance workers.
I wonder if they're 'bored of this madness'.

Kazzyhoward · 09/03/2020 14:58

Personally, I'd rather be bored than be worrying about the effects on my young son who'll be left with no family if me and OH die because of it (we're both at risk, I've got diabetes and OH has cancer!) - he has no other close family.

DianaT1969 · 09/03/2020 14:59

@todayisnot - does the UK a special force-field that I'm not aware of? If it's just in your area, let's all move there.

Kazzyhoward · 09/03/2020 14:59

Are you bored that 366 people have died in Italy???

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51793619

DianaT1969 · 09/03/2020 15:02

@todayisnot - please come to this thread in 6 weeks. Update us on how you think the UK compares to Italy then.

SnoozyLou · 09/03/2020 15:03

@todayisnot - does the UK a special force-field that I'm not aware of? If it's just in your area, let's all move there.

I believe it's one school of thought, mostly purveyed by knuckle-dragging wallies who think the EU should give us a good deal because "we is special", and think Boris will take care of us all, because he is a jolly nice chap.

bellinisurge · 09/03/2020 15:04

If you are bored why don't you volunteer to help at a food bank. Or a care home. Presuming they would have you.

Lucindainthesky · 09/03/2020 15:06

You're so wrong OP. It is far, far worse than the flu. Read some reports coming out of Italy from doctors there - many young people being admitted with severe pneumonia. It's not just affecting the elderly. We're about a fortnight away.

GoodDogBellaBoo · 09/03/2020 15:09

Be glad you have the luxury of being just bored.

Gadgnkk · 09/03/2020 15:13

OP, I am sorry but you are really ignorant about this virus.

Italy is now under the most restrictive measures since World War Two.

DeliciousTart · 09/03/2020 15:13

It is NOT flu.

Read this, coming to Britain soon:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8090779/Italian-PM-makes-impassioned-plea-16-million-obey-quarantine.html

GarlicSoup · 09/03/2020 15:14
Biscuit
AlternativePerspective · 09/03/2020 15:15

The information on deaths is actually unsure. Because while people with Coronavirus have died, many of those would have died of the underlying health conditions they already had.

The woman who was the first to die in the UK was already in ICU with a serious illness not related to coronavirus.

And yes, I agree with PP (as do the experts to a certain extent) that healthy, not-at-risk people do need to catch it in order to build herd immunity to protect those at greater risk.

There’s a vast difference between awareness and hysteria such as is happening on some of the threads on here, some even so distasteful that they have been deleted.

And the reality is that the more the hysteria ramps up, the less likely people are to take notice of the sensible advice because the panic-mongerers are too busy whipping up a panic which most people are ignoring and the real messages are being lost.

Being reasonable needs to come from both sides.

people do need to be aware, and tbh there’s a lesson in hygiene there anyway, but from the other side people need to stop panic-buying and de-registering their children from school, and insisting that a bit of a hit on the economy is a small price to pay.

There is middle ground here.

My DP was in boots earlier and he saw several people abusing members of staff because they A, had no hand sanitiser, and B, didn’t know when they would be getting any more.

The majority of people don’t need hand sanitiser, whereas in the meantime people with real need such as my friend with serious medical issues, on dialysis three times a week needs it because of the amount of time she spends at/in hospital. So she either has to settle for paying £150 for it on amazon, or go without and be the one being put at genuine risk.

All the healthy people who are not in at-risk categories are actually putting those at risk at more risk due to their hysteria.

GarlicSoup · 09/03/2020 15:15

Sorry that Biscuit was for the naysayers. We should be very worried.

Sarcelle · 09/03/2020 15:15

It is not just the flu, and anyone who says it is is deluding themselves. There is hysteria (a given in these social media days) but whole countries don't go into lockdown because of a few sniffles. This has killed a lot of people already, and because it is highly contagious, will kill many more. (And all these blasé statements about only killing people with underlying health issues or the elderly are incredibly insulting, like phew, it's just them.)

The level of ignorance is astounding. Even the stuff around why toilet paper ran out as it doesn't cause diarrhoea etc, it ran out because people have been told to get supplies in to last 2 weeks in case you have to self isolate. Same with pasta etc. People were told to prepare for that.

This is going to have long term repercussions on life, smaller businesses will probably fold if contagion takes hold. We won't be going to hairdressers, dentists, etc. If their is the risk of getting it or even having to self isolate, people will be avoiding shops etc. The economy and tourism will also be hit.

This will last months and months.

SueEllenMishke · 09/03/2020 15:17

If you're so bored why don't you spend some time doing some research?
Yes the media based hype isn't helping BUT that doesn't mean it isn't serious.
The 'it's no worse than flu' brigade are worse than the panic buyers. They're the type who happily go to work and send their kids to school when they probably should be in isolation - neighbours who recently travelled to Venice and have decided against isolation I'm looking at you here.

Porcupineinwaiting · 09/03/2020 15:17

How nice for you that you can be bored. For those of us who have a flu jab precisely because flu can kill us, telling us its "no worse than flu" isnt v comforting.

I wouldn't fancy pneumonia under normal conditions. Knowing I might face it with no hospital beds available doesnt make me feel bored at all.

todayisnottuesday · 09/03/2020 15:20

does the UK a special force-field that I'm not aware of? If it's just in your area, let's all move there

What?

please come to this thread in 6 weeks. Update us on how you think the UK compares to Italy then

Quite happily (if I had the time) because by then we will have the FACTS.

There's plenty of people saying - 'we will be the same as Italy'. What is wrong with someone saying 'but we simply don't know that yet'? It's called balance, because there is actually a middle line between 'it's just the flu' and WE NEED TO CLOSE ALL THE SCHOOLS etc etc NOW'. Not so much on here or on the media it would appear.

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