Bored of the madness

[2dogsand1baby]

So now I can't buy toilet paper or nappies in my local store and can't book a doctors appointment...!

I get the "fear of the unknown" but seriously!?

It's no worse than flu! Flu kills too and (most) people don't panic buy every winter. COVID only seems to be affecting people with underlying health issues. The flu vaccine doesn't always work as influenza changes all the time. I don't get it.

I'm just so bored of all the drama.

Unless I'm missing some vital information that hasn't been shared publicly?????

@Kazzyhoward I agree, it seems to be those who think they won't be affected too badly moaning about those who are prepared with having some food in just in case as well. My friend has a condition which makes her very vulnerable, and she has been really upset by the 'oh well it's only...' attitude. People still flying away on holiday and travelling to places affected blows my mind.

What really gets me aswell is that some of these blithe travellers will get seriously sick and they will expect to take a ventilator or medic's attention from other people who have done everything they can to limit the spread and avoid the illness. And because many of the travellers may be younger or fitter, they may get that ICU spot. If the govt had been on this from the start they could now justifiably say that you won't get ICU care on return if you have voluntarily traveled to a worse affected area.

And because many of the travellers may be younger or fitter, they may get that ICU spot. THIS

If the person had come back from Italy yesterday should have known better but many of us who came back after the half term (just as it started to unfold in Italy) and tried to find guidelines to whether we should stay at home all we git over and over again was to go on as usual unless you have symptoms. We tried to get tested, we tried to highlight we were in contact with vulnerable people and we tried to say that the virus can be carried without symptoms. Schools had just closed in italy as a precaution but here we were told not to make a fuss, even from my gp I went for a routine appointment, and from 111.
Undoubtedly many of those who went away for the half term would have helped spread the virus but we cannot start blaming them.

I personally informed work and school and asked them whether they would prefer me to stay home. They all referred to 111 who told me to go on as usual. A friend ds had to be tested but they did not bother with the family members who were with him and they could go in and out of their house for the 5 days it took for the test to come back. Negative, luckily but what if it had been otherwise?

O yeh the ones booking holidays now will want you to share their food cupboard with them and have nhs ventilators. Makes me sick.

@OnceUponACat

I hear you. The advice has guidance or lack of it has let everyone down. I still think people could have isolated and ignored instructions but obviously that is a bizarre situation. I am so angry with the government and public health community over this. They say they are doing all the can to limit the spread but we can all see the exact opposite happening in front of our eyes. Just buying time could have helped so much, they say that themselves but don't even try to make it happen. I think if they even tried to explain why they have done this it might help me feel better.

I am so angry with the government and public health community over this.

How is this the government's fault exactly? A lock-down situation would be a disaster for the economy, which would have far more implications on most people's day-to-day lives than the virus.

This attitude of “I’m alright Jack, it’s just the old, medically vulnerable” who will really be affected is terrible.

Why don't you try telling that to the stockpilers? I read on another thread that an old lady was seen practically in tears in a supermarket because she couldn't buy any of the basics like loo roll. I understand that some people need to stockpile certain items for medical reasons, but the "I'm alright Jacks" buying far more than they need are incredibly selfish.

@Dongdingdong

I am sorry, I wasn't clear. I am not saying we should have a lockdown right now or should have had one. Sorry. I meant about the way they have given such poor guidance to those returning from Italy. In the scheme of things to come there would have been little to no economic impact from targeting that specific group. I think if anything that would have increased confidence and spending. For example, at the weekend I was visiting my mum (80) and opted not to go to an event with her because I knew people locally could have returned from
Italy recently. If I had thought the govt was taking measures to protect the population from that risk we would have gone. Glad we didn't. Next day two cases diagnosed in her small town, both returned from
Italy nearly two weeks before and hadn't been self isolating. All confirmed cases in that county are people returned from holiday in Italy.

We will have massive spread of infection I know. The govt themselves say that flattening the curve of infection rate and timing so the health service doesn't have to cope with so much all at once, and buying time to prepare, are crucial. Yet we have a situation where in probably multiple counties the cases trace to Italy, and so we can assume most of the upcoming ones will be infected via that route.

The most obvious, effective, non damaging way to contain/delay was to discourage travel to Italy, quarantine on return or at the very least take measures to enforce self isolation even if no symptoms. You are infectious before symptoms show. Instead, we had none of that, and we had people landing just in the last 48 hours going back to public facing work claiming to have had no advice at all about isolation.

So by failing to flatten the curve and delay the peak, the govt have made it more likely we will lose time to prepare medical facilities and will have more people unable access care due to the intensity of numbers at the peak. It isn't hard to see that will cause a higher death rate than if they had taken action.

Sorry so long. Just struggling with how many can't see this. Not including you there as I realise you thought I meant lockdown.

OP, you posted on Monday. It's Wednesday today. So just 2 days have passed. I'm wondering if you feel the same? Are you bored by it all?

Our work has been closed down and we're working from home.

People will lose their jobs from all this.

Bored? You must regret this post now.

OP is off trawling the shops for pasta and bog roll.

Or hiding in a fridge...

Thank you! Finally SOMEBODY else gets it!!!!