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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 18

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usernameishistory · 09/03/2020 11:35

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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FourTeaFallOut · 09/03/2020 13:34

Even if we went with their figures that 100,000 will die [worst case] this figuralso includes 17k that they predict would die from normal flu so were talking about flu deaths being 4/5 times worse than normal [worst case scenario].

That was not the worst case scenario. The worse case scenario is 500000 dead.

Last year less than 1700 people died of flu.

RunningAwaywiththeCircus · 09/03/2020 13:35

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Rocketmam · 09/03/2020 13:36

Starting to get a bit concerned about DH's asthma. He had to get some prednisolone over the weeked from OOH because he has a cough and kept having to use blue inhaler (no fever though so not thinking cv). He is on the third dose today and if anything is using blue inhaler more and wheezing/coughing more.

It does make me worry what would happen if the NHS gets swamped under in the coming weeks/months. Might tell him to get up gp's today...

AvocadoOwl · 09/03/2020 13:36

Also I suspect covid weaker strain was in uk earlier at least before xmas. So some could be immune already

What makes you say that? Hmm

cjt110 · 09/03/2020 13:36

There was a really helpful, "live" update thread from the Guardian - does anyone have the link?

fedup21 · 09/03/2020 13:37

Aye, chinny reckon.

Exactly what I thought!

TokyoSushi · 09/03/2020 13:37

I agree that the problem is that they don't really know what to do, so the only people in the delay phase are the government.

They know the measures that they need to take, and they know that those measures will damage the economy, so instead they're going with a 'wash your hands, it won't happen to us we're British, hope it all goes away' approach.

Marvellous.

IrisAtwood · 09/03/2020 13:37

@jerseygaly Regarding post I am opening it, emptying the contents onto a newspaper/tea towel (something that can be thrown or washed on a hot wash), doing what I need to do with it and then throwing it away. Immediately washing my hands of course.

tud41 · 09/03/2020 13:38

@FourTeaFallOut
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/839350/Surveillance_of_influenza_and_other_respiratory_viruses_in_the_UK_2018_to_2019-FINAL.pdf

page 51 has the flu deaths for the last 5 years

also it was widely reported yesterday the 100,000 was now the worst case scenario

Dusty01 · 09/03/2020 13:38

The live update: cjt110

usernameishistory · 09/03/2020 13:38

@Apricotfool
Where are you reading COBRA update?

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cjt110 · 09/03/2020 13:39

Can anyone point me to info about the 4 stages? Currently in contain (but are we containing if people are still catching it?) And I don't get the delay stage...delay what?

ofwarren · 09/03/2020 13:39

US trading halted as stock market plummets amid coronavirus and potential oil war t.co/d9FkPTxIV8

fedup21 · 09/03/2020 13:40

It really is...carry on as normal whilst cases are spiralling...

Jerseygaly · 09/03/2020 13:40

Is he coughing.?

I'm not just nervous of the virus. It's the getting it when overwhelmed.

Also hard and fast with herd immunity means parliament can come out of hiding quickly......

FourTeaFallOut · 09/03/2020 13:40

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-flu-reports

That figure is an average, above is a link to the flu report. It is not a given that you will have flu deaths into the tens of thousands, it wasn't last year , have a look.

cjt110 · 09/03/2020 13:41

@Dusty01 Thank you. I saved the link the other day but it clearly must change as the link i have is 4 days old!

halcyondays · 09/03/2020 13:41

Delay lots of people catching it at once by social distancing, e.g closing schools, cancelling events, work from home.

cjt110 · 09/03/2020 13:41

Do we really think they will close the schools in the near future?

FourTeaFallOut · 09/03/2020 13:42

P 49, if you done have hours to read through it.

Discobar · 09/03/2020 13:42

@apricotfool - no offence but it sounds like you went into work after the weekend fully expecting the go ahead for a 3 week jolly "working from home"

cjt110 · 09/03/2020 13:43

@picklemewalnuts Thank you

Apricotfool · 09/03/2020 13:43

@usernameishistory
I’m only reading the one padded out paragraph on the bbc where gov spokesperson says cobra discussed what steps could be introduced in coming weeks