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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 18

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usernameishistory · 09/03/2020 11:35

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

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Biohazardsuitcompulsory · 09/03/2020 18:09

Another 90 odd deaths in Italy and over 9300 now positive

eeeyoresmiles · 09/03/2020 18:10

Every year Australia knows they will have fires, but they don't know where. They enforce restrictions on people, like no open fires, don't drop ciggie butts, and fuel reduction. That's the washing hands part. But they don't go around bombing the bush with water, as that wouldn't achieve much. But, when an outbreak starts, they attack it. Cut it off and bomb it with water. Hopefully this will make it go out, or at least give them time to evacuate people.

The difference is that in analogy we're not the people, if anything we're the bush! Serious attempts to stop the virus are only going to happen after it's burned through enough people to start to look dangerous to wider society as a whole, and more dangerous to the economy than doing nothing.

In Australia, they do what they can to stop fires before any people are killed - they don't let them keep burning while the numbers of deaths are low, and only intervene when they get a bit higher.

peridito · 09/03/2020 18:10

I know it might seem like little action but I think the main action is in identifying /tracing contacts of dx people .

I honestly think temperature scans at airports would give masses of false alerts .I'm always boiling at airports .
And think of those who would pop a couple of paracetamol for innocent or non innocent reasons and artificially lower their temp .

Skyejuly · 09/03/2020 18:10

The healthcare is presumably not even overwhelmed yet. What happens when it is on the brink Angry

FourTeaFallOut · 09/03/2020 18:10

I've got no beef with the 1% figure, I just wish they would test more widely.

Quartz2208 · 09/03/2020 18:11

It must concern them though exactly how these patients get it though as clearly it must be comminutiy transmission

PotholeParadise · 09/03/2020 18:11

yes 70% rubbing alcohol/surgical spirit has high enough alcohol content to be effective against virus .

generally suggested 2/3rds spirit + 1/3 rd aloe vera,latter for moisterising .

Making my own toiletries has never been within my skill-set but if you mix two thirds of something 70% alcohol with a third of something non-alcoholic, the resulting mixture will be significantly less than 60% alcohol.

peridito · 09/03/2020 18:13

the Select Committee with Whitty is very informative
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000ghsb/select-committees-live-coronavirus-committee

ofwarren · 09/03/2020 18:13

A fifth person has died in the UK after testing positive for #COVID19, NHS England has confirmed.

The individual, who was in their 70s and had underlying health conditions, passed away at St Helier Hospital in Sutton.

Read more about #coronavirus: t.co/ApGarQ5cAN t.co/0ZaMb52kjY

BigChocFrenzy · 09/03/2020 18:13

"mass gatherings and so on, actually don’t make much difference"

iirc, the early big cluster of cases in Germany was at a carnival, which was attended by some infected person / people who were involved in business

Germany has cancelled trade fairs & shows worth hundreds of millions; Switzerland has cancelled the massive Geneva Car show

Those governments are taking advice from their public health officials about what works

  • they wouldn't just be spaffing away all that money & business
LambriniSocialist · 09/03/2020 18:15

Sorry, just realised I said ten puffs on the blue inhaler is apparently same as a ventilator. Dh just informed me that she said nebulizer, not ventilator.

I was thinking it couldn't have been ventilator that you meant!

GalOopNorth · 09/03/2020 18:15

It upsets me when they always add ‘and had underlying health conditions’ as though it makes their death ok Sad

Horehound · 09/03/2020 18:18

@PotholeParadise I think the poster meant 70% alcohol and 30% aloe Vera
Rubbing alcohol is like 100% alcohol.

Husband says you could just use glycerol instead of aloe...

Lynatic · 09/03/2020 18:19

Warren, can you tell me your source please ? I want to look at it

ofwarren · 09/03/2020 18:20

www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/local-news/second-person-leicestershire-tests-positive-3930861
Second person in Leicestershire tests positive for coronavirus

Dollymac · 09/03/2020 18:21

Member of staff at Aintree hospital in Liverpool has contracted covid-19

Sunshinesky1981 · 09/03/2020 18:22

I would imagine that they are saying they will bring this in 10-14 days from now so that the schools are closer to the Easter break . That's then giving them a buffer to see how the numbers react over the school holidays and reduce the impact of school closures . Means some kids will go off with a week left of term, but will end up having 3 weeks off, also means they could extend the Easter break by a week and all would get 3 weeks, some would have 4 weeks. Am guessing they are hoping that parents will already have some childcare sorted out for the break already making it more manageable

ifonly4 · 09/03/2020 18:22

I live fairly close to Cheltenham racecourse. Even if they'd cancelled it in the last day or two, 50% of the damage has easily been done. They've been preparing for weeks, and that preparation has been heavily strepped up in the last couple of weeks. They employ 6000, a lot of whom they bus in from other racecourse areas under their umbrella. Hardcore racegoers where clearly in Cheltenham on Saturday and in local pubs on Sunday. It's a known fact that the hotels and guests houses are fully booked for miles and as people are already in them ...

ofwarren · 09/03/2020 18:22

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/george-eliot-hospital-issues-statement-17891328.amp?__twitter_impression=true
George Eliot Hospital issues statement about coronavirus patient

Horehound · 09/03/2020 18:23

@GalOopNorth it doesn't mean that their death is ok but it does mean that they succumbed to the virus probably because of the underlying health conditions..

ofwarren · 09/03/2020 18:23

CANADA- coronavirus: 5 new coronavirus cases in B.C. bringing national total to 77.
Includes:
34 in Ontario
32 in B.C.
7 in Alberta
4 in Quebec

DakotaFanny · 09/03/2020 18:24

Me too Galoopnorth

ofwarren · 09/03/2020 18:24

For which one @lynatic?

PotholeParadise · 09/03/2020 18:26

I think the poster meant 70% alcohol and 30% aloe Vera
Rubbing alcohol is like 100% alcohol.

I'd hope so, but I already googled rubbing alcohol before I replied and the first shopping result that came up was... 70% alcohol.

I may have to go into a Maths Rageâ„¢ about understanding of percentages in the UK.

magicrainbowbeans · 09/03/2020 18:27

ofwarren that link is very confusing, it talks about a third person, but also the student being second. I thought the student was first in Leicestershire, does that mean there are 2 more now? Can't make sense of it.