worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 18

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

For research on CV and babies:
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761659

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

says, when the government does ask people to stay at home (see 5.04pm) if they have a fever or a mild respiratory tract infection, they will be asked to stay at home for seven days.

Why 7?!

@Bercows The 7 day self-isolation is apparently going to be in the Delay phase for anyone who has even mild symptoms. Isn't in force yet but it's coming (10-14 days, Boris said).

All sports suspended in Italy until April due to coronavirus t.co/Vst8QBnlS6

“Temperature screening in airports doesn’t really have much effect… mass gatherings and so on, actually don’t make much difference”

Chief Scientific Adviser Patrick Vallance on the measures that help contain the virus

t.co/T6h8CbWPuk #COVID2019 t.co/EzhFW8vD6o

"We're moving to a phase where we will be having to ask members of the general public to do different things than they would normally do"
England’s chief medical officer Chris Whitty gives an update on UK coronavirus outbreak

#COVID2019 latest: t.co/SmMGwnFkpg t.co/tUcv5OQkGG

So that's anyone with even a mild cold type illness having to self isolate? That is going to have a huge impact on places like schools tbh, if everyone who isn't 100% can't come in we will be so short staffed it won't be safe?!

We are screwed!!!

Calm down.

It’s interesting Africa is fairly resistant to this, I wonder if it indicates warmer conditions kills the virus off, as scientists are hoping may be the case, so that as it gets milder it may naturally decrease.

"It is very important that people behave responsibly and think about others"

Asked about people stockpiling, PM Boris Johnson says he is "certainly confident" shop shelves will remain stocked

t.co/T6h8CbWPuk #COVID2019 t.co/FNwW36N7g2

Thank you for the explanation on the 7 day isolation. Dd often spikes a temp. Children in general are snot monsters.

BJ did look worried.

'It's not just a matter of what you do, it's also a matter of when you do it... there's a risk that if you do it too early people will get fatigued and it will not be sustainable' says Chief Medical Officer.

Read the latest on #coronavirus here: t.co/GNwhycisTo t.co/pXLeK87G5a

@LambriniSocialist..

yes it was utter tosh. More people than that die a year by getting hit by lightning!

Via Helen Branswell on Twitter

1. This is an important study: German researchers looked at how long #Covid19 patients shed "viable virus" — ie how long they may be infectious. They could not isolate virus from the throat swabs/sputum samples of mild patients post day 8. t.co/eNczHeZUsI

1. That's key because many recovered #Covid19 patients test positive by PCR for days, even weeks. Knowing whether they pose an infection risk is critical.

German group also could not isolate virus from stool, blood or urine samples. Also found fast antibody rise — days 6-12.

1. The paper is currently out in pre-print form. One of the senior authors is @c_drosten.

This is a big and important piece of work. The paper is found here: t.co/VlJDPCapPL

If this with even mild colds need to stay at home for 7 days DS won’t be allowed in school for weeks as he permanently has a mild cold!

ISRAEL- coronavirus cases rise to 41

On 5live now they are saying how wonderful the Cheltenham cup is going to be! Yes that’s a necessity, bloody horse racing!

I don't follow horse racing but people's livelyhoods and wages will rely on this event, we are talking about zero hours workers.

At this time there is no reason to cancel.

13th case of coronavirus in Croatia

That is going to have a huge impact on places like schools tbh, if everyone who isn't 100% can't come in we will be so short staffed it won't be safe?

Exactly. Doctors, nurses, hospital staff, paramedics, street cleaners, police officers, delivery drivers, shop staff...the impact is huge

mass gatherings and so on, actually don’t make much difference

Evidence? I am losing trust in government advisors being impartial here. It made a difference in China and WHO is praising Italy (though possibly happened a bit late there). Why is UK different?

Also, mass gatherings: you don't need to be a rocket scientist, or indeed epidemiologist, to see this is bollocks. If you stay at home you could infect your family (for sake of argument 4 people) - if you go out you can pass it on by coughing to everyone on the public transport near you (within 2m, which is a lot on the tube), everyone you're sitting next to at the 'mass gathering' and then they go off and the same applies. It doesn't make any logical sense saying this.

I am losing trust in this government.

I wonder - would there be scope for mass legal action if the death toll is really high here and the government demonstrably didn't follow WHO advice / advice from countries who got it earlier?

It was a typo the poster said.

I think the logic of delaying more extensive action is that most Brits have a fairly low tolerance of being uncomfortable / inconvenienced.

The risk is, close everything down too early and folks will start getting bored/twitchy/complacent or running out of stuff in a couple of weeks time when we are at ‘peak’ contagion. This will cause a second wave of infections that will prolong the length of time the NHS has to struggle.

I’m not saying this is the right or wrong strategy and there are non-essential sports/music events that it feels sensible to postpone/cancel. (London Marathon springs to mind) but I think that’s the ‘logic’.

Also if mass gatherings don't make any difference, why are they asking over 65s to stay home.

Both can't be true.

I just cannot fathom why people arriving on flights from Northern Italy are not being automatically tested!??

The 2 confirmed cases in my county are self isolating at home, having arrived back from Italy... Which means they must've walked through the airport,then presumably drove or took public transport home (we are a very very long way from any airport) maybe popped into local supermarket to pick up evening meal etc BEFORE any self isolation!

'We were all given an instruction not to shake hands'

@BorisJohnson explains why he avoided hand shakes at the #CommonwealthDay service t.co/cnBmQ8hSeP t.co/dbFk32h2sI

I think they are using this very dangerous and probably wrong assumption that if people don't go to a mass gathering like a football match, they're just going to go down the pub instead. I think if people know the football match is cancelled due to a real threat from coronavirus they're much more likely to stay home - especially if the message is STAY HOME.

I think it must be politically motivated because it doesn't add up at all.