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worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 16

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usernameishistory · 07/03/2020 22:21

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

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ItsAHardKn0ckLife1 · 08/03/2020 15:10

What am I missing, sky news say 273 and PHE say 244?

myrtleWilson · 08/03/2020 15:11

244 is England, 273 is UK

FurForksSake · 08/03/2020 15:11

PHE is only the England ones not UK

DonkeyKong2019 · 08/03/2020 15:12

Oh no our first cases

ItsAHardKn0ckLife1 · 08/03/2020 15:13

Oh, duh 🤦🏻‍♀️ Thanks. Sleep deprived and stoopid today.

tud41 · 08/03/2020 15:15

@WaterSheep sorry i couldn't remember the original one i read. it was this one... www.thesun.co.uk/news/11120039/coronavirus-uk-cases-numbers/ numbers come from Nicola sturgeon who sits on the cobra committee.

sproutsarenotjustforchristmas · 08/03/2020 15:15

One in Cheltenham now, just in time for race week...

MissPoldark · 08/03/2020 15:16

We need to know...
Where was the plane from?
Had it travelled via somewhere?
Where had the people been before entering Vietnam and how ling for?

ChipotleBlessing · 08/03/2020 15:16

Yesterday someone posted a link to a place they had managed to get hand gel. Does anyone still have it to DM it to me? There have now been cases in my area and I need to use public transport to get to work! I’m not high risk but I’m worried about my parents and my toddler (I know she’s low risk but she was prem and every infection goes to her chest).

tud41 · 08/03/2020 15:16

@nellodee

"Scotland First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, who sits on the Cobra committee, today said a 100,000 coronavirus death toll was a "worst case scenario".

Among the 100,000 are those most likely to die from seasonal flu, which averaged 17,000 over the past five years."

Its worst case scenario stop with the scaremongering!

ChipotleBlessing · 08/03/2020 15:17

I would be absolutely amazed if all those countries had simultaneously managed to export coronavirus into Vietnam. Iceland has had one case, hasn’t it? Much more likely that they have been infected in the week they’ve all been in Vietnam.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/03/2020 15:18

Still getting my head round Italy: 🤯
How quickly it started from nothing to get out of control

Italy has quarantined over ¼ of its population Confused
including the regions that produce a great chunk of the country's wealth - industry and Milan financial centre

and look at the rate of increase:

On 21 Feb, they thought they only had 3 cases, now nearly 6,000
in 16 days ??

(they must have missed lots of cases in the first weeks)

worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 16
Eeyoresstickhouse · 08/03/2020 15:18

2 cases have been put up for our council area. The local paper have nothing on it (doesn't surprise me!). It's getting more really here now.

GatoFofo · 08/03/2020 15:18

Re Vietnam: From Channel News Asia ”The new cases confirmed on Sunday include eight foreign tourists arriving in Hanoi on a Vietnam Airlines flight from London on Monday, the ministry said in a statement.“

So at least 8 people were already infected when they stepped on the plane in London

SistemaAddict · 08/03/2020 15:19

I'm looking out at the garden and it's a lovely sunny spring day but blustery with the odd shower. Everything looks full of promise and then I remember the news and that the world outside my little bubble is not looking good at all. It's hard to compute both realities really at times. I dread to think what it's like in Italy. And dread thAt it will be like that here in a couple of weeks too.

ChipotleBlessing · 08/03/2020 15:19

Oh, I didn’t know Nicola Sturgeon was on the Cobra committee. That actually makes me feel a lot better about the likely quality of decision making within it.

FingonTheValiant · 08/03/2020 15:19

Reastie Clinell say their wipes are effective against coronavirus after 60 seconds of contact time. But to be honest, I have a feeling a lot of wipes actually need a longer contact time that’s most people realise.

Fartooparanoid · 08/03/2020 15:21

I do wonder if these death predictions reflect the health care that will be denied to so many because our system can’t cope.

My dd has been off school for nearly a week with flu like symptoms. She now has an awful cough. It seems wrong to send her to school tomorrow.

Reallybadidea · 08/03/2020 15:24

So at least 8 people were already infected when they stepped on the plane in London

Or they caught it on the plane from a woman who had been in Milan and tested positive www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-08/virus-outbreak-tied-to-london-hanoi-flight-rattles-vietnam

NebbiaZanzare · 08/03/2020 15:26

Still getting my head round Italy: 🤯
How quickly it started from nothing to get out of control

Tell me about it.

I've gone from green to yellow to red zone and my head is spinning from just how fast we've gone from normal life where Very Bad Things happen somewhere else, to being The Somewhere Else.

YoursTunbridgeWells · 08/03/2020 15:27

I'm looking out at the garden and it's a lovely sunny spring day but blustery with the odd shower. Everything looks full of promise and then I remember the news and that the world outside my little bubble is not looking good at all. It's hard to compute both realities really at times. I dread to think what it's like in Italy. And dread thAt it will be like that here in a couple of weeks too.

Agreed. I genuinely think the world will not be the same again. Even those that survive and move on - 100k deaths is better than 500k dwaths but 100k dying means a lot of people will have lost a child, a parent, a grandparent, a colleague and a friend. There will be no proper way of mourning - no funerals allowed. People will carry the grief and the fear for the rest of their lives.
This is a generation defining event. It's like a war in that respect.

And what about those people who come out of it with permanent lung damage, or other damage?
I am terrified of deaths for other reasons or say kids with broken arms that never get fixed beacuse the NHS has collapsed and we have to DIY at home.

Businesses will collapse, people will lose their jobs, their homes etc.

However, we can't just sit here we have to try to keep on living somehow and that's really hard in itself.

Carlislemumof4 · 08/03/2020 15:27

5 in Cumbria now.

Yet the Carlisle & District Music & Drama festival is confirmed as going ahead, schools and privately taught pupils taking part from all over the county through this week. My DC due to participate.

Desperately want the option to pull them out of school until at least after Easter, possibly through the summer with work set online. We need to take drastic measures like Italy and certainly test more widely.

BigChocFrenzy · 08/03/2020 15:29

"stop scare-mongering"

Whitty and Vallance were talking before of a "reasonable worst case infection rate of 60-80%
and the CF death rate atm is anywhere from 1-3%

That would be way higher than 100,000

What has changed ?
(Or are the politicians more optimistic than the experts ?)

In the UK, flu deaths over a full year range from 600 cases to 13,000
depending on the severity of the virus each year

CV19 looks to have a death rate 10-20 x higher than flu
and having flu doesn't stop you getting CV19 as well

tud41 That 17,000 flu deaths you quote looks like a US average, not the UK

Coquohvan · 08/03/2020 15:29

Chipotle
Really NS makes you fell better. (Shudder)