worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 16

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WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public#number-of-cases

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

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I fear my relatives are stuck now in italy.
they are not in an affected region (yet) but have to go through them to get to austria/germany.

There are 40 cases in India and it's 30 degrees.

I'm curious as to why Russia is purportedly so low.

You cannot trust the figures coming out of some countries. One of my DD lives in a country where there are no reported cases. The actions on the ground indicate differently. Also, there’s a growth in xenophobia.

People from Africa and India are less likely to travel abroad (massive generalisation I know) and so there are less imported cases. When it's just a few people coming in with it, it's relatively easy to isolate them.

I'd also suggest in some countries there won't be much, if any, testing going on.

Africa

www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-in-sub-saharan-africa-a-week-in-review/a-52675944

I think it is there

@FoxRedBitch the LA data is released daily. It came out about 5:30 yesterday - I posted on previous thread to update.

Latest update:

▫️106,465 cases (+4,208 in 24h)
▫️42,635 active (+1,534 in 24h)
▫️6,039 critical
▫️36,596 mild
▫️60,230 recoveries (+2,571 in 24h)
▫️3,600 deaths (+103 in 24h)
▫️103 countries (+6 in 24h)
▫️3.4% CFR

Source: Worldometers

@middleager
Agree. More action could have been taken earlier. Australia eg stopped arrivals from China on 1st Feb (except for Australian nationals and those with permanent residency). HK introduced quarantine measures for those coming from mainland China back in Feb. When I arrived three weeks ago we were given a leaflet on the plane and that was it. No forms to fill in asking where we had come from, where we were going ...no increased hygiene at Heathrow...
Knowledge is only power if you do something with it.

@middleager that’s what frustrates me too. We had an opportunity to learn from those countries. It was a golden window to put in place plans, aggressively contain, trace & test & not let it take root. I’d say that window has now closed so now there’s a tsunami slowly bearing down on us & we’re still not doing anything.

Pp mentioned tacking a couple of extra weeks on to school hols.

I know of at least two exams (IGCSE) in that first week back and assuming there are others, so I think Govt would be reluctant.

@SansaSnark
Generalisation, but probably true. China showed huge differences in the number of cases in provinces. that was partly due to socioeconomic factors and people in the west of China having less disposable income and therefore not travelling. Tibet, for example, only had one case.

The government won't be reluctant because of a couple of exams.

Dr from WHO on Andrew marr has basically just said that Corona isn't affecting anyone except for people over 60....

mac and if we get through this I still don't think lessons will be learned.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-05/trump-assurances-aside-warmer-weather-may-not-slow-coronavirus

@Number12 Dominic Raab is first Secretary of State so would take over if Boris Johnson died. That’s not a constitutional rule as it is in the US though, the Conservatives would then hold a leadership election once the crisis was over. In Labour it’s the elected deputy leader who takes over.

I am intrigued on how this woman was even tested!

There's an article describing 4 coronavirus cases in the Telegraph today. One, a 35 yr old woman, just had a mild sore throat and cough, and then developed a runny nose after a week and recovered with no complications. No temperature at any stage of the illness.
Exactly what I had a few weeks ago.
So all the screening of people by taking temps is pointless.

@SansaSnark similar thing happens with northeast England in those spread models. It is always last to be the most severely affected, presumably because of less travel outside the region.

Re NHS, I'd like to see fat layers of 'chiefs' and 'principals' in non-acute departments redeployed to work on wards in some capacity (I've worked in an incredibly management heavy elective dept: numerous band 7 and 8 roles to about 25 band 6 and below).

I am also going to volunteer myself before I get slated.

@keepmoving Presumably she was a close contact of someone with the virus? That’s why Heathrow and Schiphol don’t do temps though, it misses loads of people with the virus and catches loads of people who don’t have it.

Ooh, interesting, where would I find those spread models @ChipotleBlessing?

@keepmoving I think from other reports she was staff on the cruise ship so all were tested.

FlamingoAndJohn so your head has authority to decide that with out the local authority? Will he add the week onto the existing hols, extending the break?

My dh has an event in a few weeks and he asked me what I thought... My response was no way. I think in two weeks the schools will be shutting three at a push but by that point I wouldn't be surprised if parents are pulling their kids out first.

@chipotleblessing I hadn't thought about that! I've had similar symptoms for 2 weeks (as have lots of people I know) and it just made me think... I doubt I have it as no one else in family sick. Won't meet the testing criteria anyway and don't want to waste the seemingly limited capacity.

@SansaSnark

Don't deny the value of hope. Hope is very important from a psychological and physiology point of view.
Of course people do get summer colds, and of course there is currently no herd immunity, and we may not even have that in this summer.
But colds and flu do slow down in summer, so we have to hope this will too. What is the alternative? We're all screwed? I for one would like to enjoy what time I have left with a little hope.