Coronavirus thread 13

[KenAdams]

Previous thread here.

We are using Worldometer, BDO and Dr John Campbell videos as part of the discussions.

@Awkward1

Haven't heard of any planes being deep cleaned

Qantas most definitely is. They cancelled a flight to London yesterday because someone with the virus was ok the plane days before.

Should be a standard response really!

I stopped going to the sauna at the gym
(although not to gym classes)

I read that 60C is supposed to kill the virus, but it is pretty humid in our sauna, even if noone else is there sweating naked with me

Anyone read whether sauna is a danger ?
because I do enjoy it

I agree Gammel
Keep being told it's complicated/LEAs etc but other countries seem to be doing this - some with fewer cases than here.

BigChoc is it you who's in Germany? Are the schools open there? If not, is there pressure to close them?

My school is massive and the corridors are jam packed between lessons like the entrance to a football grounds. The virus would spread like the Diamond Princess on steroids. You might get childcare for a week or two, but we wouldn't last long before all the teachers went down like dominos. I don't envy nurses, but if they insist on keeping open schools AND hospitals, at least you would imagine the nurses would get to wear personal protective equipment. We would all just be sitting ducks, using the computer keyboards of the last poor bugger to have taken the class we are covering for.

They cancelled a flight to London yesterday because someone with the virus was ok the plane days before.

If it was days ago then the deep cleaning is a rather delayed reaction.

@DominicCummingsForehead where did you hear the rumours that it was Swindon?

Would, unfortunately that's what other countries are doing and to get to school shut stage they have to get to high death rate and high illness rate, with many health care professionals ill.

I work in an educational setting among a huge volume of people.

My instincts are crying out now to shut where I work and let me keep my two dc off school. However, I'd be very happy with less students, skeleton staff and do some sort of rota.

Less students and staff means less chance of density and infection.

Far easier to manage. And if I could go in for less days, and keep my dc off too that also lessons risk at their two schools.

It means staff can keep working on the NHS and elsewhere but we are '' thinned out ''

I've been in a and e with a sick child needing oxygen and there being a significant delay because lots of dc had same thing.

Yes less children than adults are apparently being infected but children are being infected, there is one in Alderhey hospital who has tested positive for Coronavirus.

Why talk about closing parliament, what's so dangerous they need to close parliament but in the mean time tell the rest of the public to keep washing their hands to happy birthday. Obviously things we are not being told.

I am very concerned to hear that a child at Alder Hey has it.

Bethlehem will be put on lockdown from midnight due to coronavirus - Jerusalem Post

@WaterSheep apparently they weren't told until the day they cancelled which I believe. I might be biased, I'm a big Qantas fan girl, but they have a pretty decent safety record on all fronts.

@nellodee I thought about the computer keyboard in my class today. We are not allowed to use anti-bacterial wipes (in case of allergies) but keyboards are surely the worst for germs.

"The arguments against shutting schools make sense. But Greece, Italy and Iran have decided to do so."

Italy & Iran have far more cases than the UK, but Greece doesn't

They balanced economy vs lives and came up with a different answer - different politics / priorities

Maybe if we ever reach the same figures of Iran & Italy, UK schools will close too

You wouldn't want to cover the class of someone who was off sick and be using theirs, would you? And that's before you get to the "purple pens of progress" that get handed out and chewed by 150 different kids every day.

@Awkward1 I’ve looked for that FB corona virus group and nothing showing. Have you posted the full group name? TIA

I personally would not go swimming right now. Swimming pools can spread viruses and it's too soon to know whether that includes the coronavirus www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6352248/

Nellodee, wipe the key board and use gel?

Our corridors are crowded too.

I can't understand the logic that we all keep working to Simply keep NHS staff at work, until we all fall like ducks and so do they?

I don't have dp anymore but if I did I'd be terrified.

#UAE- The Ministry of Health announces that they’re monitoring a new infection with #Coronavirus in a 17-year-old Emirati student who does not complain of any symptoms

The whole hand washing thing in schools is pretty pointless because if Coronavirus actually got into a school (particularly a primary school or a special needs school) then hand washing wouldn't do shit!

I wonder what's going on in Germany because their cases are flying up day by day, any talk of their schools closing? Is anyone on here who lives in Germany, can you shed any light on your situation?

auslass Only deep cleaning the plane when they know someone with the virus has traveled on it seems a flawed policy. If they're deep cleaning then it should be for all planes, as there's the potential for spread on every flight.

Yeah if they close Parliament but have business as usual everywhere else then that will just be laughable!

@nellodee I've already spoken to my class about pens, pencils, water bottles etc. They are taking the handwashing seriously and I'm on it, but trying to get them to stop picking their noses and chewing pencils etc is a tough one. It's what kids do!

fingerprint paying systems are a huge issue in the schools.

Each child touching the same pad with unwashed finger then eating.

If you read what WHO say children are seemingly not falling ill to the virus. The theory is that they are exposed to so many of the other coronavirus strains. Closing schools is more about reducing spread to those who are susceptible. (Not a health professional.)
Given I have caught everything going since November as my son is reception this is reassuring especially given the fact I'm thoroughly miserable because I'm fed up of being ill.

The arguments against shutting schools make sense. But Greece, Italy and Iran have decided to do so.... So are they so different that our arguments don't apply? Are they following different guidelines?

The social (and economic) impact of closing schools in other countries is different. Its connected to the number of single mothers, the number of working mothers (and whether they are full or part time) and the role and degree of extended family in childcare.

The UK has higher numbers of working mothers, single mothers and less extended family support.

This makes the UK more dependent on female labour and families are less able to cope with the financial and social implications if schools closed as a result. These effects have to be considered because of the risk of indirect deaths through school closures.