Coronavirus thread 12

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Can’t see one? Sorry if there is one.

A difficult message not massage I presume massages are a bad idea now.

@ajandjjmum Thank you - much appreciated x

@Babyfairy0923
The current pneumonia vaccine protects against strains of bacterial pneumonia.

There are more than 80 types of pneumonia bacteria, the vaccine covers 23 of these.

The corona virus can cause a viral pneumonia.

It may help prevent a secondary infection of bacterial pneumonia but I've not found information to support this.

OldQueen1969 I totally relate as I'm in a very similar situation right now. DM has just finished radiotherapy for brain cancer (which will only give her a few extra months) and DF has dementia. I'm also self employed and it has been hard to keep up a steady flow of work while this has been going on, which then adds to the stress.

This will pass, but we could really do without this bloody virus right now!

Do make sure you look after yourself too. Easier said than done I know.

‘Buying is’. I luffs autocorrect!

@Cherrycee

Thank you - sending an appropriately sanitised fist bump of solidarity and all good wishes too x

As an aside... Has anyone listened to the Podcast called Passenger List. It talks about a virus calculation which is 7H100C95F

7H - 7 hours to contract
100C - Contaminated (can't remember the exact phrase)
95F - 95 fatalities.

This in in relation to a virus on board, but they also talk of the same formula for Ebola (different numbers). I wonder what it would be for Covid19?

Tbh you don’t even need Skype for parents evening. A phone call could do. You don’t need to see the person

We only have 4 phones in my school!!

We aren’t allowed our own phones onsite for GDPR regs!

@Bercows Here is a map of cases in the world which I discovered only this morning. I’ve put it on my desktop. I suggest you watch the YouTube videos posted by Dr. John Campbell who tells things how they really are, and David Abel and his wife, a married couple currently in a Japanese hospital who were transferred off the cruise ship Diamond Princess - they were admitted to this Japanese hospital because David was so dangerously ill (without him realizing it) that they weren’t sure he’d make it going farther afield.
I was very very disappointed to see that the Prime Minister publicly (and seemed proud of it) stated that he was still shaking hands with people. DON’T even fistbump. Elbow bump like the surgeons do in the operating theatres or foot bump like I saw in a newsreel the other day. Suspend handshakes, kisses on the cheeks, kissing other people’s babies, going to crowded places, touching surfaces outside your own home. Most of all don’t panic but DON’T UNDERESTIMATE this. I live in a city where it’s already quite infected... Here’s hoping and praying. Remember, if you’re in denisl and don’t take this seriously and you fall ill, who will take care of your children etc.? There won’t be enough supporting services to do it in your place.

ncov2019.live/map?fbclid=IwAR2Tm75L6NfLiMBwx-0ZJOIRCjxs-NX5dBENsvgSG0Wnobf9-PEG8NKL70k

I had a chat with my Mum last night, I need to nip out shopping on Saturday, it’s a large regional city and it’ll be a shopping centre.
I’ve asked her if she wants to come with me - she was unsure due to this.

However, she was currently having lunch with a friend who is a retired virologist who said “go shopping this weekend , go and have a potter around the shops whilst you still can - because it’s going to get a lot lot worse and maybe in a week / two weeks from now, you’ll not be able to go shopping at all without being at risk”

@planningaheadtoday thank you for the info 👍

@Cheeseismylife I didn't realize that. It kind of seems too little too late to stop an event a day early. Hope your family and all involved are ok. My friends are happily meeting up with a large group and going out for dinner.

MC50

On your desktop?!

NOW: All primary schools in Delhi, India will close for the rest of the month to prevent the spread of coronavirus - officials

I’m really surprised - and pleased - that numbers in places like Morocco and Egypt are so low.

@Spacecadetagain - I think I remember you from back when you had pneumonia. Did someone send you vitamins? If so that someone was me. I remember someone was having a really hard time recovering from an illness and I sent them some vitamins. Back in the days when MN was much smaller! The name Spacecadet rang a bell when I saw it earlier.

Very grateful for all the information and updates on this thread. We are stocked up for a few weeks and none of us need to go out. I’ve been stocking up gradually so not causing any shortages! We will carry on as normal as long as is sensible but can batten down the hatches if necessary.

@middleager worrying. Hopefully it's nothing.
I know how you feel a little as dd2 has had a fever since Sat with a slight runny nose. Was a little sick Mon. And now has greenish snot. She's obviously not been in this week. We haven't been abroad but obviously everyone was back from half term start of last week so enough time for her to get ill Sat. But as it's generic symptoms dd1 has continued at school. And many parents would probably have sent dd2 to nursery today now or usually as she seems ok in herself.

In feeling quite angry. We are not protecting the old or nurses or teachers. Or anyone with preexisting.

At this rate I think Boris will be out!
My kids will have no GP but at least everyone got their holidays, or Crufts ffs!!I

Anyway. Can we set up a fund.? Maybe so nhs can get more Oxygen support?

MC50

Telling people to shake hands - hell, encouraging it even - is irresponsible, yet the doctor on BBC Breakfast advocated the same. In a short film, she and the presenter shake hands and make a point of saying it is safe.
Though at the very end of the 5 min segment she jokes about using sanitiser.

Yet today's Telegraph advice repeats not to shake hands.

I'm so frustrated by the misinformation and conflicting messages.
We need clear and consistent guidelines - including information on symptoms - so the public is informed.

Handshaking does seem like a bad idea but in most again countries handshaking isn't really a done thing and it has been spreading easily. In shops in Japan you put money into a tray when you pay for items.

This isn’t good.

Two people off the Grand Princess cruise on 11th Feb have CV, one died, others who were on that same cruise are still on boards, along with crew.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/princess-cruise-passenger-dies-coronavirus-ship-heads-for-san-francisco-2020-3%3famp

Does anyone think the advice will be any different this afternoon or tomorrow? That's assuming new figures will be published this pm. I'm on a course tomorrow and of course dc are at school and then there's parties and of course parents evening. Over use of the word course there, sorry

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51734564

Major sponsors pulling out of Crufts...

BJ needs to talk science and explain how handshaking help tue vulnerable from dying through the wanton spreading of a serious disease.

I mean, hes surely a target too.

I can see the reasoning behind shutting HoC because of the average age in there running key govt depts.

China took very extreme measures the get tue results they have, but also, we don't have the same strain.

However, Italy is following the same trajectory.

We are climbing slower.

DD is working the racecourse circuits in the area at the moment. Dropped her off at Cheltenham (for coach to another racecourse) and it's heaving. Gold cup next week - marquees are up, loads of marshalls directing traffic, which is queuing and includes quite a lot of lorries making general and food deliveries. If it has to be cancelled fair enough, but they're going to loose so much money.

Where is the source of the 80% being worst case scenario please?